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AvPG Podcast #14 Online

I have just uploaded the 14th episode of the AvPGalaxy Podcast. Join RidgeTop, DoomRulz (in his AvPG Podcast debut) and I as we take the opportunity to vent about all the recent disappointments for the Aliens/Predator/Prometheus community – Colonial Marines, Predators, the Aliens vs. Predator films, Prometheus and others:

We’d look to hear from the listeners if you agree or disagree with anything we said. Please let us know. Keep an eye out over the next few days for our coverage of our trip to Creative Assembly. Episode #15 of the podcast will also cover our visit.

There’s also a new Alien podcast now being released – Star Beast Podcast. They just released their first episode at the end of January. Be sure to check it out!



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Comments: 31
  1. Russ
    I found the podcast really fascinating. I was reminded of other threads on the forum, the ones about Predator 2 -- there seems to be more haters than lovers of that one, but it does what the (true) fans purportedly want -- does something new with new characters in a new setting that has nothing to do with previous one. (well, aside from the Busey line, anyway).

    But yes - the points about they (the creative teams writing this stuff) do seem to think the way to the fans hearts is by referencing / rehashing what's gone on before are completely valid. But then - I like that stuff. I think it was Ridgetop said that the great thing about A:CM was walking through the excellently realised Sullaco and so on - and he's right - I got a massive thrill out of that (but as I've said elsewhere, I'm not a big gamer, so I don't really get all the hate -- and I've not finished the game yet).

    But it does seem that we do want Colonial Marines vs Aliens vs Predator(s) in a decently realised movie - or is that the wrong takeaway from the 'cast? Are we looking more towards new characters, new situations unrelated (as much as possible) from the marines and xenos. Like the first AvP comic? I've read many places "Why they hell didn't they just make that!"

  2. Space Sweeper
    Though I didn't agree with half of it, mostly the Prometheus stuff, and it sounded like Doom was using his mic as both a backscratcher and tissue, it was a really good... certainly impassioned podcast.  :laugh:

    I loved the little "quit your griping" touch at the end, too.
  3. Darwinsgirl

    I enjoyed the comic critiques. I liked the comment for not reading a series because of too many "vs" this made me smile. My sentiments exactly.

    Corp. Hicks would you be able or know of a link that shows the comic that came with the game you have?

    Looking forward to the next podcast "vs" ?  ;)
  4. RidgeTop
    Glad you liked the podcast. I really enjoyed your Event Horizon and Prometheus mods, excellent work on both of them. I probably got more satisfaction from your Prometheus mod than I did from the actual film; it was truly a joy to throw that basketball around, blasting the bodies of the crew to bits during the briefing scene. Also, the incorporation of Aliens and Predators was great. I hope to see you working with id Tech 5 one of these days.
  5. DoomRulz
    Hey Jon! I did receive your message and my apologies for not responding sooner. You're quite welcome and we also appreciate the feedback, so thank you as well. I'm a big DOOM fan in general so I look forward to seeing future projects from you ;D
  6. bladeghost
    This podcast was from the heart and not from a script,I really enjoyed listening to it  I was suprised to hear it , thought ah what the heck give it a listen
    since not much else is going on, what really suprised me was a mention of my prometheus mod I built in idTech4 doom3 and my experimental Alien Trilogy D3 mod.
    Thanks very much, truly a welcomed suprise and humble acknowledgement.  Thanks to everyone that took the time to check it out. The project I'm making now isn't so cinematic
    like prometheus D3 was , I did get a bit carried away with cinematics because they were fun to build and create, too bad the gameplay suffered.
    sorry for that. my new project however will be much more FUN! in every sense, so thanks everyone for your support and interest in my Doom 3 mod projects.
    Happy Cheers! and best always! :)

    J
  7. SM
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    I can kinda agree where SM is coming from. Fans as a whole can be this stupid, unpleasable mass that hates everything that comes out. It just a lot of the angry butthurt nerd that thinks its cool hate at something.

    I dunno if it's the 'cool to hate something' thing - more that a lot of fans don't know what they want (beyond 'make it cool like Alien or Aliens, but give us something new, I mean seriously how hard can it be?').  All they do know is they're not getting it.

  8. SizzyBubbles
    I can kinda agree where SM is coming from. Fans as a whole can be this stupid, unpleasable mass that hates everything that comes out. It just a lot of the angry butthurt nerd that thinks its cool hate at something.

    At the moment though i feel like i'm surviving off a lot of older alien and pred stuff while trying to drain nutrients out of whatever new things come out... which haven't been all the pleasing. The recent alien/predator/avp comics left something to be desired, Prometheus... was a thing... and CM was pretty much the world's biggest disappointment... am i forgetting anything?

    I am looking forward to Isolation... yet my excitement is depleted and i'm more "well... i hope its good..." warry. if you get me.

    On the bright side, at least i have some SAWEET action figures though!  ;D

    Sweet Christ, I apologize for that! I don't remember what the hell I was up to during the cast :-[

    re-arranging the room while eating chips?
  9. SM
    It would seem I'm overwhelmingly in the minority.  :)

    None of the AvP games were tied to the movies, and after the first 3 comics series, they weren't tied to the films either.  I'm talking in terms of story and character, rather than design elements.  You can't really escape them.
  10. Corporal Hicks
    I'd disagree. Majority of the games were based on the movies and anything after that has had design elements that are very similar in design to the movies.

    I'm glad everyone isn't completely ashamed by the whine-cast. I know SM didn't like it so was worried everyone wouldn't.
  11. SM
    Gave me the shits.

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    I agree with Corporal on the 'please the fans' thing that companies are doing: "Oh look see its -insert iconic Alien film location here-! LIKE FROM THE MOVIE! You like that don't you???? please buy our game/thing/whatver?!?!"

    For 20 years they avoided doing precisely that and people complained.  Now they're tying stuff more to films and people still complain.

    Can't please everyone I guess...
  12. SizzyBubbles
    A rant podcast? oh man, AVPG will love this  :P :-\

    I never gave CM a chance either after seeing and hearing it was so frightfully bad... not worth it to me. And after i saw those galloping, FREAKING GALLOPING xenomorphs... i was like NO. Screw this.

    I agree with Corporal on the 'please the fans' thing that companies are doing: "Oh look see its -insert iconic Alien film location here-! LIKE FROM THE MOVIE! You like that don't you???? please buy our game/thing/whatver?!?!"


    I like DoomRulz's sound effects in the background there...

  13. SM
    Well they weren't in Antarctica really (despite what the film says), and there was a crewed ship nearby.  If the crew is all killed - someone's going to come looking for them and find a bunch of eggs.  Then there's a temple under the ground full of eggs.

    Weyland wasn't the only one with a satellite.
  14. TheBATMAN
    Because it creates a timer.  If the Aliens get to the surface they'll spread as they're already on Earth.  If you do that on another planet, the jeopardy is reduced.

    But does it though? Realistically what are a pack of Aliens gonna do on the Antarctic surface? It's just a false sense of jeopardy, just like the entire present day Earth setting was as a whole, rendering it pointless. And BG-386 at least had a nearby colony so you could argue the threat would be greater there anyway.
  15. SM
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    Enjoyed that boys, nicely done and I agree on almost all points However, I feel the runtime is woefully short for a show covering so many topics.

    I thought this one was a bit long considering it was a 45 minute whinge.

    Ah well, guys gotta vent I guess...

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    Also the audio is sketchy in places and kind of spoils it in places. If the audio gets that bad you should just re-record that particular bit when it clears up.

    That's what they usually do.  Sometimes some stuff isn't picked up on until I start editing, and only so much can be done with it.

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    One quick point I'd like to make about AVP is that I too enjoyed the pyramid setting. But why present day Antarctica? John Davis and Paul Anderson wanted an AVP film set on Earth, yet having it 2000 feet below isolated Antarctica kind of negates that fact. Then Anderson says Antarctica was chosen because it was closest place on Earth to the surface of an alien planet. Again, why?

    Because it creates a timer.  If the Aliens get to the surface they'll spread as they're already on Earth.  If you do that on another planet, the jeopardy is reduced.

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    And should Anderson not be blamed in some respects for Requiem? After all it was his present day earth plot that led to a sequel being set in Colorado.

    Davis wanted it on Earth, so Anderson gave him that.
  16. TheBATMAN
    Enjoyed that boys, nicely done and I agree on almost all points However, I feel the runtime is woefully short for a show covering so many topics. I guess it all comes down to everyone's free time and availability but I think a show like this should really be between 90 mins to 2 hours in length. That way you can delve into much more detail with your discussions.

    Also the audio is sketchy in places and kind of spoils it in places. If the audio gets that bad you should just re-record that particular bit when it clears up.

    One quick point I'd like to make about AVP is that I too enjoyed the pyramid setting. But why present day Antarctica? John Davis and Paul Anderson wanted an AVP film set on Earth, yet having it 2000 feet below isolated Antarctica kind of negates that fact. Then Anderson says Antarctica was chosen because it was closest place on Earth to the surface of an alien planet. Again, why?

    I wish the first AVP film had gone along the lines of AVP2010. Essentially the same plot but set in the future between Aliens and Alien 3. Hot, jungle planet perfect for the Preds, bring in Weyland-Yutani and the colonial marines yet keep the Aliens isolated to the pyramid and the darkness.

    And should Anderson not be blamed in some respects for Requiem? After all it was his present day earth plot that led to a sequel being set in Colorado.
  17. rexemmen
    Great show guys!

    Indeed, the lack of some good releases these last couple of years make me also feel a little abandoned by the franchise. It's a labor of love to keep up and keep engaged into staying up to date with everything going on. I think A.C.M. Showed us the ugly truth that the people that have to feed the fandom take a big shit on it. And that FOX is more interested in the money it brings than the quality of it. For me personally, NECA is making up for it big time. But that will last for so long I reckon. And Prometheus is a problem in itself. And Linderhoff or whats his name... is one of those writers that start out great and end very bad (Lost). The movie in my opinion is great. But the story construction is rather poor. I find this youtube vid very helpful:   And both AVP's suck. They tried to conbine to much old with something not new but different (Piramides and Villages in present time) that it failed Big Time. And they had so much to work with... (Comics/Book) it might not be new or original but not something we have seen on the big screen.

    But all in all, we need something new and refreshing. So that we again, as a community and as fan can get excited about.
    But most of all the trust that the people feeding (FOX/Dark Horse) that, take us and the franchise more seriously and dont go for the quick buck.

    Don't give up guys!! I won't!!
  18. Darkness
    At long last. Great podcast, guys.

    Yeah, I guess we all go through those little moments where we want to chuck in the towel.

    What we really need is a new reboot of the AvP series.
  19. Corporal Hicks

    I have just uploaded the 14th episode of the AvPGalaxy Podcast. Join RidgeTop, DoomRulz (in his AvPG Podcast debut) and I as we take the opportunity to vent about all the recent disappointments for the Aliens/Predator/Prometheus community – Colonial Marines, Predators, the Aliens vs. Predator films, Prometheus and others:

    We’d look to hear from the listeners if you agree or disagree with anything we said. Please let us know. Keep an eye out over the next few days for our coverage of our trip to Creative Assembly. Episode #15 of the podcast will also cover our visit.

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