I have just uploaded the 14th episode of the AvPGalaxy Podcast. Join RidgeTop, DoomRulz (in his AvPG Podcast debut) and I as we take the opportunity to vent about all the recent disappointments for the Aliens/Predator/Prometheus community – Colonial Marines, Predators, the Aliens vs. Predator films, Prometheus and others:
We’d look to hear from the listeners if you agree or disagree with anything we said. Please let us know. Keep an eye out over the next few days for our coverage of our trip to Creative Assembly. Episode #15 of the podcast will also cover our visit.
There’s also a new Alien podcast now being released – Star Beast Podcast. They just released their first episode at the end of January. Be sure to check it out!
But yes - the points about they (the creative teams writing this stuff) do seem to think the way to the fans hearts is by referencing / rehashing what's gone on before are completely valid. But then - I like that stuff. I think it was Ridgetop said that the great thing about A:CM was walking through the excellently realised Sullaco and so on - and he's right - I got a massive thrill out of that (but as I've said elsewhere, I'm not a big gamer, so I don't really get all the hate -- and I've not finished the game yet).
But it does seem that we do want Colonial Marines vs Aliens vs Predator(s) in a decently realised movie - or is that the wrong takeaway from the 'cast? Are we looking more towards new characters, new situations unrelated (as much as possible) from the marines and xenos. Like the first AvP comic? I've read many places "Why they hell didn't they just make that!"
SM likes to take the piss outta me at the end of the odd podcast in his own ways.
Gah. If I return, I'll be sure to not be multitasking.
I loved the little "quit your griping" touch at the end, too.
I enjoyed the comic critiques. I liked the comment for not reading a series because of too many "vs" this made me smile. My sentiments exactly.
Corp. Hicks would you be able or know of a link that shows the comic that came with the game you have?
Looking forward to the next podcast "vs" ?
since not much else is going on, what really suprised me was a mention of my prometheus mod I built in idTech4 doom3 and my experimental Alien Trilogy D3 mod.
Thanks very much, truly a welcomed suprise and humble acknowledgement. Thanks to everyone that took the time to check it out. The project I'm making now isn't so cinematic
like prometheus D3 was , I did get a bit carried away with cinematics because they were fun to build and create, too bad the gameplay suffered.
sorry for that. my new project however will be much more FUN! in every sense, so thanks everyone for your support and interest in my Doom 3 mod projects.
Happy Cheers! and best always!
J
I dunno if it's the 'cool to hate something' thing - more that a lot of fans don't know what they want (beyond 'make it cool like Alien or Aliens, but give us something new, I mean seriously how hard can it be?'). All they do know is they're not getting it.
At the moment though i feel like i'm surviving off a lot of older alien and pred stuff while trying to drain nutrients out of whatever new things come out... which haven't been all the pleasing. The recent alien/predator/avp comics left something to be desired, Prometheus... was a thing... and CM was pretty much the world's biggest disappointment... am i forgetting anything?
I am looking forward to Isolation... yet my excitement is depleted and i'm more "well... i hope its good..." warry. if you get me.
On the bright side, at least i have some SAWEET action figures though!
re-arranging the room while eating chips?
Sweet Christ, I apologize for that! I don't remember what the hell I was up to during the cast
Many Thanks!
None of the AvP games were tied to the movies, and after the first 3 comics series, they weren't tied to the films either. I'm talking in terms of story and character, rather than design elements. You can't really escape them.
I'm glad everyone isn't completely ashamed by the whine-cast. I know SM didn't like it so was worried everyone wouldn't.
For 20 years they avoided doing precisely that and people complained. Now they're tying stuff more to films and people still complain.
Can't please everyone I guess...
I never gave CM a chance either after seeing and hearing it was so frightfully bad... not worth it to me. And after i saw those galloping, FREAKING GALLOPING xenomorphs... i was like NO. Screw this.
I agree with Corporal on the 'please the fans' thing that companies are doing: "Oh look see its -insert iconic Alien film location here-! LIKE FROM THE MOVIE! You like that don't you?
I like DoomRulz's sound effects in the background there...
Weyland wasn't the only one with a satellite.
But does it though? Realistically what are a pack of Aliens gonna do on the Antarctic surface? It's just a false sense of jeopardy, just like the entire present day Earth setting was as a whole, rendering it pointless. And BG-386 at least had a nearby colony so you could argue the threat would be greater there anyway.
I thought this one was a bit long considering it was a 45 minute whinge.
Ah well, guys gotta vent I guess...
That's what they usually do. Sometimes some stuff isn't picked up on until I start editing, and only so much can be done with it.
Because it creates a timer. If the Aliens get to the surface they'll spread as they're already on Earth. If you do that on another planet, the jeopardy is reduced.
Davis wanted it on Earth, so Anderson gave him that.
Also the audio is sketchy in places and kind of spoils it in places. If the audio gets that bad you should just re-record that particular bit when it clears up.
One quick point I'd like to make about AVP is that I too enjoyed the pyramid setting. But why present day Antarctica? John Davis and Paul Anderson wanted an AVP film set on Earth, yet having it 2000 feet below isolated Antarctica kind of negates that fact. Then Anderson says Antarctica was chosen because it was closest place on Earth to the surface of an alien planet. Again, why?
I wish the first AVP film had gone along the lines of AVP2010. Essentially the same plot but set in the future between Aliens and Alien 3. Hot, jungle planet perfect for the Preds, bring in Weyland-Yutani and the colonial marines yet keep the Aliens isolated to the pyramid and the darkness.
And should Anderson not be blamed in some respects for Requiem? After all it was his present day earth plot that led to a sequel being set in Colorado.
Click on the link in Hicks' post, then scroll down to Episode 14, right click, save as.
Right click the embedded player and select 'Save Audio As' and you should be able to download the file.
Indeed, the lack of some good releases these last couple of years make me also feel a little abandoned by the franchise. It's a labor of love to keep up and keep engaged into staying up to date with everything going on. I think A.C.M. Showed us the ugly truth that the people that have to feed the fandom take a big shit on it. And that FOX is more interested in the money it brings than the quality of it. For me personally, NECA is making up for it big time. But that will last for so long I reckon. And Prometheus is a problem in itself. And Linderhoff or whats his name... is one of those writers that start out great and end very bad (Lost). The movie in my opinion is great. But the story construction is rather poor. I find this youtube vid very helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpEx7pdp2-Q#ws And both AVP's suck. They tried to conbine to much old with something not new but different (Piramides and Villages in present time) that it failed Big Time. And they had so much to work with... (Comics/Book) it might not be new or original but not something we have seen on the big screen.
But all in all, we need something new and refreshing. So that we again, as a community and as fan can get excited about.
But most of all the trust that the people feeding (FOX/Dark Horse) that, take us and the franchise more seriously and dont go for the quick buck.
Don't give up guys!! I won't!!
Yeah, I guess we all go through those little moments where we want to chuck in the towel.
What we really need is a new reboot of the AvP series.