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Jack Paglen to Write the Prometheus Sequel Script?

According to Variety, THR and the Prometheus’ Facebook page, Jack Paglen is currently in talks with 20th Century Fox to write the script for the sequel to Prometheus.

Fox and Ridley Scott are getting closer to returning to space as Jack Paglen (“Transcendence”)  is in talks to write the follow-up to last year’s sci-fi blockbuster, “Prometheus.” (…)  He is repped by ICM Partners and Madhouse Entertainment.

Previous reports stated that Fox was having some trouble finding a way to continue the story of Elizabeth Shaw and were taking pitches from any writers. Thanks to Aspie for the news.



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  1. acheronbeing
    Rebooting the first alien film would bring some serious consequences, and most serious of all them imo (apart from the more than probable failure as a movie) would be the total loss of the magic and malevolence shrouding the first iconic creature, the one and only true alien in the series, which actually was Kane reborn as the perfect organism, and of course, a lot more than that.

    If the alien series would ever have to face a reboot, It should be only to free the creature from more than 20 years of Cameron-itis and his damned influence over the entire franchise once and for all. Still, If this movie was ever to be done, It should not be a reboot of the first film by any means, and of course the creature to be used in the film could also be different to Giger's alien..., but please, at least be biomechanical, human-like and perverse like the first one, and with the very much missed regeneration skills that the original alien also had (one of the good things about Prometheus was that, but applied to the hammerpede this time).
  2. Kimarhi
    My two cents.  I don't know about a reboot but I think that Prometheus will move closerto the Alien franchise than further away.  It's just a hunch, but I think most people watch Prometheus expecting some tie in with the Alien series, and that one of the main disappointments of the film was that there wasn't enough of that tie in the movie.
  3. CainsSon
    Yeah but looking at the numbers, Prometheus was $230m ahead in box office receipts of the nearest flick with an Alien in it.

    And it's third in terms of inflation adjusted box office behind Alien and Aliens which have 33 and 26 years respectively worth of headstart.  And it's Alien and Aliens it's behind.

    Despite the apparent rage from some quarters, Prometheus reviewed better among critics and punters than Alien3 and Resurrection and way better than the AvPs.  At this point you'd be angling for more Prometheus than Alien.

    I hope you're right. I really do.
  4. Darth Vile
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    Im not completely against that idea, but I'd rather see a more original story follow Prometheus.

    And since Riddles pretty much agrees with this and has said any Prometheus sequels will likely move further away from Alien, it renders most of your post kinda void.

    Rite man, but I stated this warning to those who trash PROMETHEUS. Riddles, as you say, is on the same page, but FOX is not yet. They listened to fans reactions and have a choice to make: What is more bankable, a PROMETHEUS 2 that moves further away from ALIEN or one they can market with the ALIEN on board in a real way.

    The point is: I WANT PARADISE, not an ALIEN REBOOT. And anyone who doesn't want an ALIEN REBOOT should be EXCITED that PARADISE MAY HAPPEN so we don't get a version of PROMETHEUS 2 that behaves as a reboot.

    As for those who said an ALIEN REBOOT isn't marketable, that's just silly. Its certainly cheaper to make than PARADISE and they also have the distinct option to say its a PROMETHEUS SEQUEL and not be lying, when really its an ALIEN REBOOT.

    Unfortunately, this remains a bankable, cheaper alternative to PARADISE, so lets keep our fingers crossed that JACK PAGLEN comes up with something exciting for the studio to warm up to. I wish this REBOOT potential for PROMETHEUS 2 wasn't the case, but sadly its like a carrot dangling in front of the producer's faces.
    Why take a really expensive risk when you can take the less expensive ace in the hole?
    I think an Alien movie is 'marketable', I just don't think it would be profitable for the studio. Time will tell, but I'd hazzard a guess that Prometheus 2 will be closer to the themes of Prometheus than it will Alien.
  5. RoaryUK
    Reboots are for superheroes and tv shows, not cinematic classics. I honestly can't stop laughing at the idea of some young director coming along and casting seven 'hot' young thespians in a remake/reboot of Alien.

    The 3rd and 4th Jaws movies sucked. Does Jaws need a reboot?

    If that's your idea of entertainment, let me suggest the Monster Truck show...

    Yep, this 100% for me, there's no need for a reboot.  Love it or hate it, there's enough scope for Prometheus 2 to be its own thing, even if it did have an alien in it.  Prometheus' shorter than average Jockey was proof enough for me you can take something you did before, and still turn it into something else without harming what's already in place.  I myself expected too much of the prequel thing at first, but once you open your eyes to it, Prometheus can go anywhere it wants, all I want to see is a story that's told in a better way.
  6. SM
    Yeah but looking at the numbers, Prometheus was $230m ahead in box office receipts of the nearest flick with an Alien in it.

    And it's third in terms of inflation adjusted box office behind Alien and Aliens which have 33 and 26 years respectively worth of headstart.  And it's Alien and Aliens it's behind.

    Despite the apparent rage from some quarters, Prometheus reviewed better among critics and punters than Alien3 and Resurrection and way better than the AvPs.  At this point you'd be angling for more Prometheus than Alien.
  7. CainsSon
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    Im not completely against that idea, but I'd rather see a more original story follow Prometheus.

    And since Riddles pretty much agrees with this and has said any Prometheus sequels will likely move further away from Alien, it renders most of your post kinda void.

    Rite man, but I stated this warning to those who trash PROMETHEUS. Riddles, as you say, is on the same page, but FOX is not yet. They listened to fans reactions and have a choice to make: What is more bankable, a PROMETHEUS 2 that moves further away from ALIEN or one they can market with the ALIEN on board in a real way.

    The point is: I WANT PARADISE, not an ALIEN REBOOT. And anyone who doesn't want an ALIEN REBOOT should be EXCITED that PARADISE MAY HAPPEN so we don't get a version of PROMETHEUS 2 that behaves as a reboot.

    As for those who said an ALIEN REBOOT isn't marketable, that's just silly. Its certainly cheaper to make than PARADISE and they also have the distinct option to say its a PROMETHEUS SEQUEL and not be lying, when really its an ALIEN REBOOT.

    Unfortunately, this remains a bankable, cheaper alternative to PARADISE, so lets keep our fingers crossed that JACK PAGLEN comes up with something exciting for the studio to warm up to. I wish this REBOOT potential for PROMETHEUS 2 wasn't the case, but sadly its like a carrot dangling in front of the producer's faces.
    Why take a really expensive risk when you can take the less expensive ace in the hole?
  8. Mr. Clemens
    Reboots are for superheroes and tv shows, not cinematic classics. I honestly can't stop laughing at the idea of some young director coming along and casting seven 'hot' young thespians in a remake/reboot of Alien.

    The 3rd and 4th Jaws movies sucked. Does Jaws need a reboot?

    If that's your idea of entertainment, let me suggest the Monster Truck show...
  9. SM
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    Im not completely against that idea, but I'd rather see a more original story follow Prometheus.

    And since Riddles pretty much agrees with this and has said any Prometheus sequels will likely move further away from Alien, it renders most of your post kinda void.
  10. Darth Vile
    I think they could have done an Alien reboot without making a prequel... but I understand what you're saying. To be honest, I'm not sure there is much money in an Alien reboot... it's a much more expensive movie to make than a Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre (which can be done very cheaply), and I'm not sure the market is there to make that money back. Prometheus worked, financially, because it was a prequel and because Scott was coming back to the franchise. I'm not sure they could get that audience again unless they made a very, very good movie.
  11. CainsSon
    No.  All that's really on the table at this point is Prometheus 2.

    Correct PROMETHEUS 2 - which will either be PARADISE / PROMETHEUS 2, or PROMETHEUS 2 The ALIEN REBOOT.

    To clarify: Ask yourself if it seems logical enough to start PROMETHEUS 2 with some kind of unwitting Weyland Corp ship of Terraformers, sent from an off-world out-post to Terraform LV223... What follows is a reboot of ALIEN that leads into a reboot of ALIENS. Change character names / add new characters....There. Now its both a sequel to PROMETHEUS AND ALSO a REBOOT OF THE ALIEN series. See how easy that is?

    If PARADISE doesn't happen, this will happen. FOX is already taking a risk even considering doing something different when they can just move forward with an ALIEN reboot from here.

    If you think some other ALIEN film won't be coming,... You just don't get the film industry. After the success of PROMETHEUS, another film will come one way or the other. Its also worth noting that an ALIEN REBOOT as a PROMETHEUS follow-up, will likely cost them much LESS money than Ridley Scott's PARADISE or whoever directs.

    I suppose you could ALSO consider the likelihood that PROMETHEUS 2 will be some combination of both things, that FOX believes will keep fans happy by featuring the alien and possibly also taking place on PARADISE...

    Im not completely against that idea, but I'd rather see a more original story follow Prometheus.


    PROMETHEUS set-up, what could easily be an ALIEN reboot-PROMETHEUS sequel hybrid. If you think that's not true, you are not seeing the full hand that the PROMETHEUS plot dealt the studio.

    It allowed the studio to either A) Make a further original film that continues in the same vein as PROMETHEUS - and becomes PARADISE or B) If PROMETHEUS failed, it provided a larger framework for an ALIEN-REBOOT series, starting with what is essentially and ALIEN reboot.
  12. CainsSon
    What I'm looking forward to most are the next batch of interviews where Ridley Scott goes off on some more spontaneously rambling tangents.

    Ive said this before and I will say it again. Not to be a jerk but just to be sure this stays fresh in people's minds.

    Anyone who says another ALIEN film after PROMETHEUS will not happen is sorely, sorely mistaken.

    The ONLY question is what that film will be and if you don't WANT it to be PARADISE, well you can pretty much be assured that the next ALIEN film will be a REBOOT/REMAKE of ALIEN that follows in sequence after PROMETHEUS.

    That's how PROMETHEUS set things up, and THAT IS WHAT FOX LOVED ABOUT LINDELOF'S DRAFT.

    If you don't root for PARADISE, then you will be delivered an ALIEN reboot.

    Do you want that to happen?

    After ALIEN 3 - which was a clear ending, we still got A:R.
    After A:R effectively ruined the franchise, we ended up with AVP.
    After AVP turned a smart adult-themed series into a PG-13 cartoon and everyone hated it, we STILL got AVP-R.
    NOBODY LIKED AVP-R. It is one of the most widely despised films in recent memory. It didn't even do well at the BOX OFFICE and yet....
    ...WE STILL GOT PROMETHEUS!

    Even though the next logical step, at that time was a remake/reboot of ALIEN...

    Do the math here.

    PARADISE or REBOOT. That's whats on the table.
  13. maledoro
    Prometheus didn't need any redeeming features?  So people are cool with lazy writing, no character development and a rushed final third, not to mention a lame fan service at the end with the Deacon?
    Scarily, there are people who worship Ridley Scott. I've seen this on a Prometheus forum (one of the admins goes as far as demonizing David Giler, as if he were the "Anti-Scott") and in reading the 4+ star ratings for Prometheus on Amazon (where some claim that Prometheus is like 2001 as it is now a misunderstood masterpiece, but future historians will champion it).
  14. Novak 1334
    I'm hoping this will get made, but I can't count it yet. Fox has been known to put their sequels on hold before like with Predators 2 for example.
    Predators was bad though... Did it have a single redeeming feature?  ;)

    Did Prometheus?  ;)

    Redeeming? No. Didn't need any.

    Prometheus didn't need any redeeming features?  So people are cool with lazy writing, no character development and a rushed final third, not to mention a lame fan service at the end with the Deacon?
  15. Xenoscream
    Not sure how I feel about this. If Prometheus 2 never happens perhaps I can forget about the first one in time.

    I really hated all the year of our lord bullshit at the end of P1. In my mind there is certainly no freaking God in the Alien universe and I can't help but feel that a weak writer will try and write a popular script pandering to the predominately religious masses and go in that direction, which I think is the exact opposite of what the Alien universe is about.

    Thinking along these lines actually just makes me hate on Prometheus, why the hell couldn't the engineers be monstrous aliens as depicted so excellently in Alien rather than humans in suits, I could almost believe in a God if we were one of a myriad of crazy creations over the vast expanse of space, I'm surprised the "engineers" didn't have pointy ears. Talk about lack of imagination.

    Frankly I’m not surprised they are struggling to find a writer, how the hell is the story going to continue? Shaw is going to land on their planet, walk about with David’s head chatting to engineers? Perhaps the Decon stowed away so we can get some Alien on Alien killing action, because you know, that always works.

    I really want something to look forward to in the Alien universe, but Prometheus 2 doesn't feel like it.

    Rant over.
  16. maledoro
    Shaw completely encapsulated that notion, that's why I hated her character for the majority of the movie, she met her maker, which pretty much disproved her faith and yet still hung on to that "God still might exist because..." attitude.
    Shaw needs to believe that her creator, no matter what form it takes, is good and just. That's why she is heading off the find more of them at the end of the film. Her faith is tied to their motives, not their existence.
    Keep in mind her response to Chumly Hollowhead's comment about our creators not being gods; she immediately asked what or who made the Engineers using the rhetorical God of the Gaps argument. It's also a shame that she has either rejected or never considered the Epicurean Paradox.
  17. ChrisPachi
    Shaw completely encapsulated that notion, that's why I hated her character for the majority of the movie, she met her maker, which pretty much disproved her faith and yet still hung on to that "God still might exist because..." attitude.

    Shaw needs to believe that her creator, no matter what form it takes, is good and just. That's why she is heading off the find more of them at the end of the film. Her faith is tied to their motives, not their existence.
  18. Darth Vile
    I'm hoping this will get made, but I can't count it yet. Fox has been known to put their sequels on hold before like with Predators 2 for example.
    Predators was bad though... Did it have a single redeeming feature?  ;)

    Did Prometheus?  ;)
    Yes - many. Predators had nothing... Saying that, I'm in a minority here as I don't believe there has ever been a good Predator movie.
  19. Darth Vile
    I didn't see anything in Prometheus advocating the wisdom of belief/faith. Quite the opposite.

    Makes it hard to care about Shaw's character though. Her "I believe because it's what I chose" is so cringy.

    Shaw completely encapsulated that notion, that's why I hated her character for the majority of the movie, she met her maker, which pretty much disproved her faith and yet still hung on to that "God still might exist because..." attitude.
    Isn't that how most people behave though? Adversity can often lead to strengthening religious beliefs.
  20. Novak 1334
    I didn't see anything in Prometheus advocating the wisdom of belief/faith. Quite the opposite.

    Makes it hard to care about Shaw's character though. Her "I believe because it's what I chose" is so cringy.

    Shaw completely encapsulated that notion, that's why I hated her character for the majority of the movie, she met her maker, which pretty much disproved her faith and yet still hung on to that "God still might exist because..." attitude.
  21. Novak 1334
    I gave up with the "well who created them?"  Line, it represents completely the whole arrogant, religious argument.  My God has been disproven, but wait who created the people who created us.... surely it must be God?!  He's so mysterious and beardy!

    Get off my movie screen
  22. Salt The Fries
    I found the religion-versus-science stuff thoroughly... Disinteresting. We don't need a movie to revolve around it. Nor do we need samples of the black ooze to be brought back to our solar system to be examined. Just make sure that the ship/colony, where the story is set, has a decent laboratory.

    Not that even this would be necessary. We don't need to see the black ooze ever again. It was a mercurial plot device which didn't really go anywhere. Zombie cavemen don't do much for me, entertainment-wise.

    Besides, the concept of a protagonist with a talking head is cool as hell

    Eh... I've seen it elsewhere ('AI', 'Lexx', 'Empire Strikes Back', etcetera) and I don't see it adding anything fascinating.

    And I've seen it in Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, a movie that would your fvckin head off. But the head wasn't alive.



    Perfect pun, "you're just a talking head" and then there was a Talking Heads poster shown hanging on the wall :D

    And what I meant in religion vs science thread is that the plot needs some friction, something to capitalize on Elizabeth's characteristics, many things were touched in Prometheus, just not explored. The movie MUST contain friction, David contained a lot of elements that caused frictions but there wasn't enough of that in characters around him. The franchise needs some underlying characteristics to add to its continuity or else it will become less and less meaningful with every subsequent iteration. The character of Weyland wasn't fully developed and it was a huge missed opportunity, the only way to fix it is to do it the way I suggested. The clash of religion and science was never meant by me to be a focal point and something presented in a straightforward way, but rather something blurred yet tangible, like morality in William Friedkin's movies (i.e. there are no clear-cut heroes and no clear-cut villains).
  23. Xenomorphine
    I found the religion-versus-science stuff thoroughly... Disinteresting. We don't need a movie to revolve around it. Nor do we need samples of the black ooze to be brought back to our solar system to be examined. Just make sure that the ship/colony, where the story is set, has a decent laboratory.

    Not that even this would be necessary. We don't need to see the black ooze ever again. It was a mercurial plot device which didn't really go anywhere. Zombie cavemen don't do much for me, entertainment-wise.

    Besides, the concept of a protagonist with a talking head is cool as hell

    Eh... I've seen it elsewhere ('AI', 'Lexx', 'Empire Strikes Back', etcetera) and I don't see it adding anything fascinating.
  24. Salt The Fries
    Besides, the concept of a protagonist with a talking head is cool as hell and could really inject something new and unique into Alien-related universe, some likeable quirkiness which might be a natural progression from what we've seen of David's character in Prometheus (he was totally different than Ash, Bishop or Call). Of course centering the whole film around it would maybe be too far-fetched so I'd assume he'd get his head back in place at some points. Flashbacks or verbal recollections from the past might also make a perfect sense since David might have questions for Elizabeth and vice versa and since it's just them they'd have a lot of time to talk.

    Weyland conceived Vickers.
    You ruined my perfectly symmetrical story-arch :( But still, something along those lines would make perfect sense. He didn't have what he wanted even if he could conceive. Elizabeth on the other hand no matter how hard she tried, she couldn't conceive (tentacled monster aside). Whim vs physical inability.

    I'm a f**king literature nerd, I get my way around such things :D
  25. Salt The Fries
    I think they could really juxtapose Weyland's inability to conceive and the creation of David with Elizabeth's infertility. The former leads to the need of opposing human limits with science, "defying gods", wanting to transcend that; the latter is about exploring everything through the prism of faith and finding answers in it. Overall, this is too important of an angle to ignore it, to not develop it and character flashbacks are the only way to retcon it and give the audience more reasons to care about Elizabeth and her quest.
  26. Salt The Fries
    I hope they'll apply more serious approach to science, fill in the gaps Prometheus left and for example someone will bring an Engineer from for an analysis and we'll learn something more about properties of black goo, how it affects cells, etc. I'm very confident this part will require creating a corporate story arch possibly involving something more than Weyland Corp. I want the movie to tackle the issue of religion vs science more seriously. That'd require more flashbacks into Weyland's past and Elizabeth's youth. No more silly jumps from caves to spaceships with shitty explanations and no depth. More like a lot more narrative vignettes coldly edited to end abruptly and adding layers to the story in various points of time. I can perfectly picture them in my mind.
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