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QA Tester Talks ACM, Gearbox & Creative Assembly

Continuing the saga that is the truth behind Aliens: Colonial Marines a tester for the game recently posted on Reddit:

“Gearbox didn’t care about the game. They spent the money from ACM on the Borderlands games…When they got the game back, Timegate had done a terrible job. When it came into Sega it was shit basically. Gearbox only cared about fixing “progression blockers” (thinks that stop a player from getting through a level) or crashes.”

The poster also mentioned the Wii U Version is even worse than what’s already been released on other formats.

Oh wow. Yes okay. I was hoping someone would ask this. I have played the WiiU version. The one that is supposedly the best of all of them? It is not. It is the worst. It is a bit of a joke. The WiiU is basically the same game as the console version but with framerate issues, worse texture loading, and horrendously misguided minigames thrown in. You get a ‘scanner’ to scan enemies and get bonus points that aid your harming them. When you cut open doors (which happens a lot in the game) you have a game where you have to keep the heat ‘optimal’. They just add frustration, and take away even more from the fun. We don’t know if it will come out, Sega are conisdering canceling it, but right now its still going.”

Reddit verified the poster’s identity, leading some credibility to the information posted by the tester. He also talked briefly about the upcoming title from Creative Assembly:

“That game looks amazing. Very dark, very slow (in a good way). The textures and lighting look really really good. I’ve seen it running on a PC. The PS4 devkit looks like a computer. It looks as good, if not better, running as any super high end pc. We did not have those controllers, but they look like what was promised.”

The tester has since deleted his account and posts but the conversation was saved and has been reported at other sites.



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  1. SM
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    The Gearbox forums are just a psychotic shit show of poorly-spelled adoration for the game.

    They are?  I've seen a metric shit-tonne of people complaining about it.
  2. RagingDragon
    ^This relieves me, Ace.

    The Gearbox forums are just a psychotic shit show of poorly-spelled adoration for the game. It's like a troll invasion, or some heinous nightmare, or both. I don't understand how anyone over there can take themselves seriously after this.

    I would hope most forums are a variant of our own, which I think is a nice mix of healthy anger and lots of discussion. I don't see anyone attacked for liking the game, because they explain themselves accordingly and don't try and sugar-coat the entire game through their opinion, but I also don't see people abiding this garbage. I'm very happy that people are staying mad. They definitely should be.

    and I agree with you, Bounds. I truly wish there were some consequences for the blatant lies they've spun for so long.
  3. Aceburster
    Hello AvP community, please hear my plea. I just like you, am totally disgusted with how ACM has turned out. I am a HUGE fan of the Alien franchise. I have waited 12 long years for this game, anticipated how utterly awesome this game was going to be. We were all sucked in by Randy's lies and false advertisement for this game. False demos, boasts about the next gen lighting, and a story that was going to blow us all away. All filthy disgusting lies.

    I think what has upset me the most is that Randy/Gearbox have made no attempt at all really to try and smooth things over with the fans. I know we'll never realistically get it, but an apology or even just a explanation of what really happened to the making of this game. Something must be done. We must not allow Gearbox and Randy Pukeface to get away with this travesty.

    I would like to open the floor of what we as a community (grant it we might be small in number), but what we can do to stick it to "The Company." A petition to demand what really happened to the making of this game. Or hell, even a petition for Fox to throw this out as cannon -ahem example: Alien Resurrection, ahem-  :laugh:

    I dont know......sigh.......I guess I fell powerless and taken advantage of. I just want some justice. Sorry for the rant.

     Lotta people feeling the same way. The best way to stick it to GBX is to not let anyone forget about it... Boycott if you feel that passionate or AT LEAST wait a couple weeks whenever a Gearbox game releases to stick it to em. Bout 800,000 people who wait a couple weeks damages a company in an unbelievable way. Thats about how many people got shafted with this one so dont forget about it.

     More "official" forums are doing everything possible to prevent people from talking about how awful this game is or how much of a group of bastards GBX and co. are so be clever and subtle about it but dont be quiet. They need you to be quiet and forget about it.

     Layoffs will keep coming and eventually people will speak up. Use every opportunity you can to use Sega GBX or anyone else you feel is at fault as an example of whats wrong with games and the franchise. Id sign a joke petition to have Randy Pitchford deported :) Just anything to keep reminding people that the guy is a !@#$%^& tool and doesnt deserve another dime.

     The Sega facebook page is a good example of thousands of real people bringin the hate. Keep bringin it.
  4. CONKERSBADFURDAY
    Hello AvP community, please hear my plea. I just like you, am totally disgusted with how ACM has turned out. I am a HUGE fan of the Alien franchise. I have waited 12 long years for this game, anticipated how utterly awesome this game was going to be. We were all sucked in by Randy's lies and false advertisement for this game. False demos, boasts about the next gen lighting, and a story that was going to blow us all away. All filthy disgusting lies.

    I think what has upset me the most is that Randy/Gearbox have made no attempt at all really to try and smooth things over with the fans. I know we'll never realistically get it, but an apology or even just a explanation of what really happened to the making of this game. Something must be done. We must not allow Gearbox and Randy Pukeface to get away with this travesty.

    I would like to open the floor of what we as a community (grant it we might be small in number), but what we can do to stick it to "The Company." A petition to demand what really happened to the making of this game. Or hell, even a petition for Fox to throw this out as cannon -ahem example: Alien Resurrection, ahem-  :laugh:

    I dont know......sigh.......I guess I fell powerless and taken advantage of. I just want some justice. Sorry for the rant.
    Eh. I really want a novel or something about the development of this game because it's been such a trainwreck and trainwrecks are entertaining in a macabre way. But other than that, there isn't much we can do other than tell people to not buy this game.

    I don't see petitions or anything being of any help, since those that worked on the game are probably under NDAs and cannot talk about it without legal repercussions or losing their jobs. I'd love for Randy to come out and speak, but he's their head PR man and doing that would wind up being a nightmare. I guess one hope is that if he goes into a legal battle with Sega, the court might force documents to be released that could give insight into what happened. I'd sure love those.

    And it's pretty easy to write this off as not canon considering that it completely breaks canon.
  5. YutaniDitch
    Yeah, Gearbox should rot in f**king hell.

    I think it's worse than that, Shadow... SEGA and Gearbox signed a contract and SEGA gave them 50 million to do it... Gearbox dragged it's feet and by 2008, SEGA wanted to pull the plug on it... Gearbox eventually convinced them and at the same time, outsourced the whole SP campaign, a vital piece of the game, to a nobody company, TimeGate, resulting in a game that looks like it didn't cost more than 3 mil...So, my question is: what happened to the remaining 47 million?!?! THAT is what SEGA should scrutinise and I think Randy and crew could be facing criminal charges for embezzlement of funds, false advertising, and also, if it is proven that BORDERLANDS was indeed made with SEGA's money, a share of the profits of both BORDERLANDS 1 and 2 are in order for SEGA! Because without BORDERLANDS, there wouldn't be BORDERLANDS 2!

    Unless SEGA is a naive company, a company with so many years of experience, they should be suing Gearbox for all those crimes! Because we can easily SEE in the game where all that money went to! There is no way they spent 50 million on that piece of crap game! No way! :-X
  6. Bounds34
    Hello AvP community, please hear my plea. I just like you, am totally disgusted with how ACM has turned out. I am a HUGE fan of the Alien franchise. I have waited 12 long years for this game, anticipated how utterly awesome this game was going to be. We were all sucked in by Randy's lies and false advertisement for this game. False demos, boasts about the next gen lighting, and a story that was going to blow us all away. All filthy disgusting lies.

    I think what has upset me the most is that Randy/Gearbox have made no attempt at all really to try and smooth things over with the fans. I know we'll never realistically get it, but an apology or even just a explanation of what really happened to the making of this game. Something must be done. We must not allow Gearbox and Randy Pukeface to get away with this travesty.

    I would like to open the floor of what we as a community (grant it we might be small in number), but what we can do to stick it to "The Company." A petition to demand what really happened to the making of this game. Or hell, even a petition for Fox to throw this out as cannon -ahem example: Alien Resurrection, ahem-  :laugh:

    I dont know......sigh.......I guess I fell powerless and taken advantage of. I just want some justice. Sorry for the rant.

  7. Pingu
    Hi there!

    While searching for news, I came upon this five part series from Machinima - "From the Atari 2600 to Colonial Marines" - wich puts the development story in a wider historical context.

    Final episode is yet to be released.

  8. RagingDragon
    Another interesting video, got some BIA:HH comparisons and other stuff. I guess I really hadn't seen Randy demo any other games, but his borderline idiotic glee and talk of how cool and new everything he's doing is makes my skin crawl now. Same old Randy, what a motherf**ker.



    How can you do that to your own products? The man must have zero artistic integrity. I'm beginning to think they just got lucky with Borderlands, maybe helped out through using money from other projects!

  9. CONKERSBADFURDAY
    There's just some things people don't want to accept, and I understand that. The DLC will not save this game. If you give your money to gearbox for the DLC, you're going to get more of the same. The core gameplay is broken. It requires a heavy duty overhaul, and they just aren't going to do that.

    You're wasting your money buying DLC for this game when in one more or two months time no one will be playing this game online for you to ultilize your paid DLC with. You're better off buying The orginal AVP for 5 bucks and playing with people on there.
    What's the community like there, since that's easier than modding AvP2 and downloading all kinds of crazy stuff :P
  10. Guts
    There's just some things people don't want to accept, and I understand that. The DLC will not save this game. If you give your money to gearbox for the DLC, you're going to get more of the same. The core gameplay is broken. It requires a heavy duty overhaul, and they just aren't going to do that.

    You're wasting your money buying DLC for this game when in one more or two months time no one will be playing this game online for you to ultilize your paid DLC with. You're better off buying The orginal AVP for 5 bucks and playing with people on there.
  11. RagingDragon
    http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/4/4063842/layoffs-hit-one-of-the-aliens-colonial-marines-development-studios
    Finally something. I'm kind of hoping that things are so mum due to potential legal bs flying around, because Gearbox not even taking the opportunity to try and salvage their own game after such a shit show doesn't even make basic business sense.

    By trying to support the game and acknowledging its problems, they both do something to repair their reputation and keep what players are left playing longer. They also show future business partners that they aren't in to flagrantly burning their entire customer base by spitting years worth of lies before releasing a crap product.

    Let me call my lawyer and see if that's an advisable route to take... ::) no he wants me to keep my head buried in the ground until the reputation and future of my entire business have completely imploded.
  12. CONKERSBADFURDAY
    Lol core gameplay is far from "broken." What's broken is the design of the game in single-player. Multiplayer is well made and enjoyable, but they should've been rushing to fix and support this game from day 1.
    I completely disagree with you there.

    They have to release what DLC was promised because people prebought it, but I don't think it'll do any good.

    Seeing this game fail and fall apart into a crazy conspiracy war over what happened during production is more fun than the actual game.
  13. YutaniDitch
    Lol core gameplay is far from "broken." What's broken is the design of the game in single-player. Multiplayer is well made and enjoyable, but they should've been rushing to fix and support this game from day 1.

    After all of their bullshit, they should've seen this coming. I mean, even with the popularity of mp these days, and the longevity it can bring to games, A:CM was sold on the story, the atmosphere, and replaying something close to Aliens. Even though the mp component was strong, and still has quite a few players on consoles at least, they haven't been supporting it at all.

    Their behavior, be it restricted by legal issues or whatever, has shown the community that they don't care enough to try and save the game when the time is right to try something like that. All it would've taken would be a simple "we are working hard on a patch, please bear with us" or something.


    This is just embarrassing, and confirms what the angry community has said about a bait and switch.


    I'm having what Raging is having, please!  ;)
  14. RagingDragon
    Lol core gameplay is far from "broken." What's broken is the design of the game in single-player. Multiplayer is well made and enjoyable, but they should've been rushing to fix and support this game from day 1.

    After all of their bullshit, they should've seen this coming. I mean, even with the popularity of mp these days, and the longevity it can bring to games, A:CM was sold on the story, the atmosphere, and replaying something close to Aliens. Even though the mp component was strong, and still has quite a few players on consoles at least, they haven't been supporting it at all.

    Their behavior, be it restricted by legal issues or whatever, has shown the community that they don't care enough to try and save the game when the time is right to try something like that. All it would've taken would be a simple "we are working hard on a patch, please bear with us" or something.

    This is just embarrassing, and confirms what the angry community has said about a bait and switch.
  15. OpenMaw
    There's just some things people don't want to accept, and I understand that. The DLC will not save this game. If you give your money to gearbox for the DLC, you're going to get more of the same. The core gameplay is broken. It requires a heavy duty overhaul, and they just aren't going to do that.
  16. VonPelz
    http://store.steampowered.com/stats/?l=english

    Very close to the truth. I can't see A:CM on the list any more, which means that today THERE WAS LESS THAN 500 PLAYERS WORLDWIDE ON PC FOR A:CM. Game might as well be dead, MP DLC makes 0 sense now, who is going to buy it? It might be a bit more popular on consoles, but I doubt it.
    http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=49540&from=1360447200000&to=1362088800000

    This graph also tells the same sad story. Peaks are now under 1000 players and the lows are around 300.  They probably go higher during the weekends but still, the average player count is in steady decline.

    I'm still keeping my hopes up that DLC might give the game more enjoyable qualities, just gotta hope that GBX and Sega stick to the plan.
  17. Elicas
    An apology would blow my skirt up, and I would scurry back to the multiplayer with my belly full of butterflies, giggling like a little girl.

    But seriously, hope it's true. It also means they can maybe bring back some of the players with patches, strong DLC, and a few good months support.

    Wait, ... wait I think I'm insane. :laugh:

    No, the DLC if anything will hurt the game more and split up the community to those who want the mappacks and those who have got them. Imagine that the game had 100 players. Then 50 buy the mappacks and 50 dont. You'll only be playing qith 50 or so people then if you buy the dlc. You dont make DLC or addons for a game that so few people play have/play to begin with.

    http://store.steampowered.com/stats/?l=english

    Very close to the truth. I can't see A:CM on the list any more, which means that today THERE WAS LESS THAN 500 PLAYERS WORLDWIDE ON PC FOR A:CM. Game might as well be dead, MP DLC makes 0 sense now, who is going to buy it? It might be a bit more popular on consoles, but I doubt it.
  18. Guts
    An apology would blow my skirt up, and I would scurry back to the multiplayer with my belly full of butterflies, giggling like a little girl.

    But seriously, hope it's true. It also means they can maybe bring back some of the players with patches, strong DLC, and a few good months support.

    Wait, ... wait I think I'm insane. :laugh:

    No, the DLC if anything will hurt the game more and split up the community to those who do not want the mappacks and those who have got them. Imagine that the game had 100 players. Then 50 buy the mappacks and 50 dont. You'll only be playing with 50 or so people when you buy the dlc. You dont make DLC or addons for a game that so few people play have/play to begin with.
  19. YutaniDitch
    I want the music CD as well for AVP1, chupa! They're together! SHoot... I will do it tomorrow... Find the CDs, I mean! I am too tired now!

    In the meantime, I cam across this piece of work! It even made PC GAMER! I don't know if it was posted  before, but If it was, I apologise... I am just mind-blown to see my fave AVP game looking like this:



    http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/09/aliens-vs-marines-mod-crysis-2/


    OMG... I want it, I want it!  8)

    Thats sexy. Bet it didnt take em 6 years to get the mood down either...

    Ya know, Fox oughta develop an Aliens engine, no game just a crap ton of tools and flexibility and sell it. Then they can C&D people using it for non-Aliens games and let the fans go wild.

    Fox wouldn't be able to find a whore in a whorehouse, much less build their own game engine! They could do it, but they would have to do a lot of catch-up to be on the same battle ground as the more experienced brands, such as Crytek, Valve, Epic, etc...  :-\
  20. Aceburster
    I want the music CD as well for AVP1, chupa! They're together! SHoot... I will do it tomorrow... Find the CDs, I mean! I am too tired now!

    In the meantime, I cam across this piece of work! It even made PC GAMER! I don't know if it was posted  before, but If it was, I apologise... I am just mind-blown to see my fave AVP game looking like this:



    http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/09/aliens-vs-marines-mod-crysis-2/


    OMG... I want it, I want it!  8)

    Thats sexy. Bet it didnt take em 6 years to get the mood down either...

    Ya know, Fox oughta develop an Aliens engine, no game just a crap ton of tools and flexibility and sell it. Then they can C&D people using it for non-Aliens games and let the fans go wild.
  21. spinksy
    they always do.

    i still can't believe Hemi got his AKF through them.


    FOX should be commending him, not admonish him! And by the way, this game should be free by now! Free to be modded!

    And FOX sending him a CEASE AND DESIST for a game this old, to a guy who is not even looking to profit from this, is just another demonstration of the pathetic company they are!

    I hope he will continue to do it, just for fun! AND if he is as pissed as I am at FOX, he should! That company never ceases to amaze me at how low they can get! A C&D for a game this old, for a guy who is doing this because he wants people to have fun and not looking for a profit...!

    Dave, if you are reading this, you are to be commended! You did a fantastic job and if you did this all by yourself, you should be at Crytek, man!

    I would love for Crytek (game) and Warner (movies) to approach FOX and buy this franchise off and away from FOX's idiotic hands! That is the only way I can envision to indulge in the possibility of EVER having good Alien movies and games!  8)

    I was just wondering, Dave made a fatal mistake: he should have kept it under wraps until it was finished! Otherwise, all that fine work for nothing! At least, we got a great video out of it showing how formidable AVP looks under the Cryengine 3! Uau!  :o :P (this is me salivating, not sticking my tongue out! HAHAHA

    THIS!!

    FOX have nearly killed this franchise off completely  ???
  22. Cal427eb
    As much as it pains me to say.... Fox has every right to shut down mods made based off their IPs. It's a terrible truth.

    That mod looked incredible, but if he got a letter, and he's smart, he will follow their request and not continue development. At the very least if he chooses to do so it will be done very quietly. Companies do not fool around. When they send you a C&D, they mean it.
    Still a dick move though.
  23. OpenMaw
    As much as it pains me to say.... Fox has every right to shut down mods made based off their IPs. It's a terrible truth.

    That mod looked incredible, but if he got a letter, and he's smart, he will follow their request and not continue development. At the very least if he chooses to do so it will be done very quietly. Companies do not fool around. When they send you a C&D, they mean it.
  24. YutaniDitch
    they always do.

    i still can't believe Hemi got his AKF through them.


    FOX should be commending him, not admonish him! And by the way, this game should be free by now! Free to be modded!

    And FOX sending him a CEASE AND DESIST for a game this old, to a guy who is not even looking to profit from this, is just another demonstration of the pathetic company they are!

    I hope he will continue to do it, just for fun! AND if he is as pissed as I am at FOX, he should! That company never ceases to amaze me at how low they can get! A C&D for a game this old, for a guy who is doing this because he wants people to have fun and not looking for a profit...!

    Dave, if you are reading this, you are to be commended! You did a fantastic job and if you did this all by yourself, you should be at Crytek, man!

    I would love for Crytek (game) and Warner (movies) to approach FOX and buy this franchise off and away from FOX's idiotic hands! That is the only way I can envision to indulge in the possibility of EVER having good Alien movies and games!  8)

    I was just wondering, Dave made a fatal mistake: he should have kept it under wraps until it was finished! Otherwise, all that fine work for nothing! At least, we got a great video out of it showing how formidable AVP looks under the Cryengine 3! Uau!  :o :P (this is me salivating, not sticking my tongue out! HAHAHA
  25. Cal427eb
    I want the music CD as well for AVP1, chupa! They're together! SHoot... I will do it tomorrow... Find the CDs, I mean! I am too tired now!

    In the meantime, I cam across this piece of work! It even made PC GAMER! I don't know if it was posted  before, but If it was, I apologise... I am just mind-blown to see my fave AVP game looking like this:



    http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/09/aliens-vs-marines-mod-crysis-2/


    OMG... I want it, I want it!  8)
    That looks amazing.
  26. YutaniDitch

    I think they were scary in both. The ones in AvP 99 were totally evil, with that lightning-speed screaming facehug. I remember the second ones being about as fast too... from parts like the lab where you release them all, or if you ever played a multiplayer match with lifecycle (the moment of true AvP glory) the huggers were very fast and almost impossible to dodge.

    I had a very easy time hugging marines in lifecycle mp. ;) I guarantee you some of them jumped lol.

    Actually, I am writing you this on a break from an extensive search after my AVP 1 and AVP 2 CDs and I AM FREAKING OUT! Too bad the multiplayer in AVP2 is no longer active... Or is it?  ???

    Now, if only there was a MOD who could use a FAR CRY 2 editor or an UNREAL 3 editor to redo the whole game in all its glory! OK, more realistically, just have a MOD to AVP2 that could make the graphics look better and with shaders in them to add sliminess, that would be great! Now, if you'll excuse me, Raging, I must resume 'my very rigid search' for the AVP game classics! See ya in a bit...  :laugh:
  27. RagingDragon
    You cats must really not pay attention to the story in games. :-\ AvP 2 had a great one.

    Aye. The game had a wonderfully realized setting. A real work of love :) The Observation pods and other areas were very well made and i loved the nods to the Nostromo set designs here and there. (The air vents! The dinning areas!) The pda's had tons of info on backgrounds and characters and i loved browsing through them along the way. 

    Shame about the development process :/

    by the way.. there are papercraft models of the AVP2 Alien warrior, runner and egg :)
    http://noturnosukhoi.blogspot.pt/2011/12/alien-runner-16.html
    Aww cooooooool.

    In AVP2, they lacked that...the scariness... The hugger was weak, the levels lacked the atmosphere, and the story was pretty boring! I prefer the first one definitely over the second one!

    I think they were scary in both. The ones in AvP 99 were totally evil, with that lightning-speed screaming facehug. I remember the second ones being about as fast too... from parts like the lab where you release them all, or if you ever played a multiplayer match with lifecycle (the moment of true AvP glory) the huggers were very fast and almost impossible to dodge.

    I had a very easy time hugging marines in lifecycle mp. ;) I guarantee you some of them jumped lol.
  28. Blacklabel
    You cats must really not pay attention to the story in games. :-\ AvP 2 had a great one.

    Aye. The game had a wonderfully realized setting. A real work of love :) The Observation pods and other areas were very well made and i loved the nods to the Nostromo set designs here and there. (The air vents! The dinning areas!) The pda's had tons of info on backgrounds and characters and i loved browsing through them along the way. 

    Shame about the development process :/

    by the way.. there are papercraft models of the AVP2 Alien warrior, runner and egg :)
    http://noturnosukhoi.blogspot.pt/2011/12/alien-runner-16.html
  29. YutaniDitch
    OK, who did it? Who got my AVP2 game? I need it back! I need to replay it, although I kinda saw it on Youtube for nostalgia sake, and man, those seriously outdated graphics are a major turn off!  :P

    At least, the first one had darkness and scary facehuggers... I remember dreading to play that level where you come out of the APC and then you know that at the bottom, you had a barely visible facehugger that almost gave me a heart attack EVERY SINGLE time it jumped at my face! Seriously, I only got to the ending of that game ONCE! I kid you not! Up until this day, that was the only time I ever screamed in a game! HAHAHAH 

    Well, not quite! Just until I got attacked by the alligators in FAR CRY 3!  :-[
    Boy, did I jump out of my skin on that one!

    In AVP2, they lacked that...the scariness... The hugger was weak, the levels lacked the atmosphere, and the story was pretty boring! I prefer the first one definitely over the second one!

    Also, AVP HAD A STORY?!?!? Really?! I thought it was just random levels with just a silly guy on a screen giving us background and missions (actually, just 'pull the lever' and stuff like that)! HAHAHA
  30. livin_target
    You cats must really not pay attention to the story in games. :-\ AvP 2 had a great one. They were able to somehow obtain flight telemetry on the Derelict and trace it back to a planet where they found a ruined civilization. This is where the observation pods and hab complex are set up, with security by Rykov and his Iron Bears, and this is where the Marines and Predators end up.

    It makes me wonder what they could do with that story in this day and age now that Prometheus has shed some light on the engineers. Prometheus certainly wasn't my favorite film but I can't help but think what would've happened if you added in aspects like the black goo to the storyline as well.
  31. RagingDragon
    You cats must really not pay attention to the story in games. :-\ AvP 2 had a great one. They were able to somehow obtain flight telemetry on the Derelict and trace it back to a planet where they found a ruined civilization. This is where the observation pods and hab complex are set up, with security by Rykov and his Iron Bears, and this is where the Marines and Predators end up.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_versus_Predator_2#Story_2

    Wiki is your friend.

    Story was light years ahead of this craptastic crap-flavored crap salad, and gave us great movie-like moments without having to force them into an impossible facepalm of a narrative. :laugh: The dark side is flowing through me.
  32. CONKERSBADFURDAY
    Board of Directors, homie, jeeze! :laugh:

    Xhan.. are you telling us that AvP 2 could've been better than it already was? That what you're saying?

    The Aliens curse, man. IT'S A CURSE I TELL YOU!

    Actually, much like Gearbox, they had press conferences on how awesome AvP2 was going to be and even took swipes at Rebellion while doing it. We got about half the game they promised.

    Aliens grabbing and carrying people in both SP and MP

    Best lag compensation model then available (HA)

    Multispecies versus game modes

    in game clan coloring and tag support

    The reason the  story doesn't make much sense is about 35% of it is missing.

    -Android organ replacement facility

    -Rykov's backstory was supposed to actually be a Pred mission

    -Boss sequence puzzle fights for every race turned into spam the giant health bar fests

    -Eisenberg's backstory was turned into a bunch of post it notes

    -Most main actors had to double duty on voices after "project re-evaluation" aka sending everyone over to the NOLF2 section

    - Other Marine squads on the ship literally handwaved into existence and then killed off, mostly in cutscenes that were supposed to be full levels
    Gosh, didn't realize all of that was true. Game is still one of my all time favorites though :P

    I remember replaying it not too long ago, and I really couldn't tell you anything that involves the story. Just as forgettable as the one we got I suppose, though I do know I enjoyed the way the campaigns overlapped at points.
  33. Xenomorphine
    I forgot just how nonsensical that first game was! :laugh:

    Most bizarre thing about it was the inclusion of the 'xenoborgs', who were just really slow walking platforms for giant lasers. I remember playing through it and being confused about why they'd been manufactured, because they didn't bother to even so much as pounce or anything.

    And, wow... Never knew the second one got butchered that ferociously. :o The strangeness of it kind of makes more sense now.

    I remember getting the feeling that Rykov's mission was going to unfold in a flashback mission, actually.
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