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Damon Lindelof’s Prometheus Script Surfaces

Collider.com has posted up what appears to be one of Damon Lindelof’s scripts for Prometheus entitled “Paradise“, though still unconfirmed by the writer. The document is 115 pages long and shares many similarities with the version that we saw on the screen with the exception of some alternate scenes and dialogue. It also includes some of the viral videos as well as some of the deleted scenes that were released recently via the Prometheus Blu-ray. You can click here to read the script in full.

“Shaw hops behind the wheel — slams the rover into gear, looks over her back shoulder where Fifield turns his attention on them — narrow elongated head that has punched through the helmet of his tattered spacesuit — grey glistening skin — He rises to his full height and — SCREEEE! Shaw throws the buggy into reverse — smashes into Fifield, driving him back into the wall of the airlock — crushes him!”.

Update 17/10/12: Damon Lindelof has now confirmed the authenticity of the script via Twitter.



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  1. Darth Vile
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 05, 2012, 01:00:40 AM
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 04, 2012, 10:28:14 PMSo if a movie isn't about life, the universe and everything it's worthless?

    No, if a movie is about creation, life and death then it is either a good movie that handles those themes well or it is Prometheus.

    And my collection is made up almost entirely of Red Dwarf DVDs. Prometheus is not worthy! ;)
    What a black and white view you have on this Chris... you mustn't enjoy much. And as much as I love Red Dwarf, I can't believe that's the only thing in your DVD/blu-ray collection  ;)
  2. Darth Vile
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 04, 2012, 10:10:42 AM
    QuoteIt was going to be an intellectually challenging movie that dealt with profound questions about life, the universe and everything.

    And as you know that's exactly what they were aiming for.. so you agree that it's garbage! Cheers bro! My shout! ;D
    So if a movie isn't about life, the universe and everything it's worthless? That's a rather blinkered view to have. I'd be interested to see what you have in your collection - as something tells me that your collection probably doesn't reflect your thoughts on Prometheus.  ;)
  3. ChrisPachi
    QuoteIt was going to be an intellectually challenging movie that dealt with profound questions about life, the universe and everything.

    And as you know that's exactly what they were aiming for.. so you agree that it's garbage! Cheers bro! My shout! ;D
  4. whiterabbit
    I really don't think there is anything to it. They tried to go epic and got avalanche by the sheer scale of work that needed to be done.

    Oh and about that 2001 comparison thing...

    Quote from: wikipedia"The old race of man is about to be replaced by the "star child", which was conceived by the meeting of the spaceship and Jupiter. MacLeod also sees irony in man as a creator (of HAL) on the brink of being usurped by his own creation. Thus, by destroying HAL, man symbolically rejects his role as creator and steps back from the brink of his own destruction."

    Thus the engineers reject their role as creators by choosing to destroy their own creation(man) to evade certain doom. Yea...
  5. T Dog
    So Lindelof just knows how to play the game. Simple as that.

    I wonder DID HE ALWAYS WRITE LIKE THIS? Or did he just develop that overtime with all the nonsense a writer has to put up with.

    Either way he's an irritant. He rims the execs hard and then plays the P.R game to such a fine t that allegedly everything he's working on is the greatest shit EVER EVER EVERRRRRRRRRRR.
  6. Blacklabel
    QuoteYour new job: Spell out all the things you so artfully seeded through innuendo and subtle suggestion. Now you're writing things in ALL CAPS and talking about how this is THE TURNING POINT FOR YOUR CHARACTER because she realizes SHE MUST BETRAY HER FRIEND to SAVE HER FAMILY. If you learned how to write from a certain LOST writer, you'll be doing this already, along with statements like HOLY SHIT, this is the MOST HEARTBREAKING MOMENT WE'VE EVER SEEN.

    So that's why nearly EVERYTHING was in CAPS LOCK.
  7. Darth Vile
    Quote from: Deuterium on Dec 03, 2012, 12:23:20 AM
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 02, 2012, 08:47:13 AM

    I don't believe you are really that naive that you can't identify PR spun interviews. This is a Hollywood system movie designed for mass audiences... Not some art house movie or geek fest for those who think Predator is 'cool'. Scott, I'm sure, was well aware that he was making something that would guarantee bums on seats whilst being made with a modicum of intelligence... I don't think he was ever intending to make 2001:ASO or Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

    Darth,

    You totally lost me.  I am not sure what you are trying to say.  It seems as though you agreeing that Lindelof and Scott knew Prometheus' story was nothing but "hot air"...and that all the bullshit "deeper" meanings that they promised was nothing but window dressing and red herrings.  Which is what I have been saying from day one.
    You've lost me... The story is simply about what happened if we met our creators and they turned out not to be as benevolent as we'd think. There is no "hot air" or "bullshit" about it. Of course anybody involved with the movie during production is going to state it's the biggest thing sliced bread (can you remember how they were selling Alien 3 onwards?)...but only an idiot would think that 1) Promethus was going to be a shocking/gory movie from start to finish (given the rating it was always going to have) 2) It was going to be an intellectually challenging movie that dealt with profound questions about life, the universe and everything.

    It was however, and IMHO, a populist movie that was made with more intelligence and craft than most of the Hollywood mainstream movies.
  8. Blacklabel
    Length a problem? Disagree.

    Although i think the film would have been improved with the extended Engineer/Weyland dialogue and the Shaw/Engineer fight at the end. They are both memorable scenes.
  9. Marlowe
    I saw so much crap around the Alien universe in their latest movies, like all the AVPs and Alien 4 .. that when I saw Prometheus it was a bit of a reward ;because of these previous blunders.
    Of course is not a stunning movie but it is the best thing that it came since Aliens from Jim.In my modest opinion.
    I know that some people will not agree.But I was no longer excited about anything related to the franchise for a long time and then the movie has premiered and I started to change my mind.I think this film gives a little hope at least.
    I'll not lose my faith in Prometheus yet. If their ideas in the next work will going to work , I don't know.
    But I will be waiting for the sequel and hoping that will complement the ideas initiated now.
    There's nothing lost yet.

    The film has (a lot) more positives than negatives points.It has to be emphasized.
  10. T Dog
    Quote from: Deuterium on Dec 01, 2012, 05:18:19 AM
    Quote from: Zenzucht on Nov 30, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
    It's probably off-topic, but it does seems to me that the audiences are no longer able to figure the things out by themselves.. They want everything "on the golden plate", on-the-nose dialogue and show & tell scenes.

    .. and that's the complete opposite of what the movies should be.

    Hi Zenzucht,

    There exists wonderfuly provocative films of great subtlety, which contain intricate layers and meanings, and which motivate one's imagination to search for deeper meanings and messages.  Prometheus is NOT one of these films, IMHO.

    Rather, it is an example of lame story-telling on the part of the writer(s), and poor execution on the part of the Director.  It is rife with plot-holes, inconsistent and non-sensical character behavior, ridiculous dialogue, and a fundamentally incoherent narrative that is built on a house of cards.  In sum...it is a complete and utter mess.  Again, IMHO.

    You nailed it man. It's how I felt after seeing and why I can't really re watch it.

    I'll throw into the hate pot that the average shot length of the film is painfully short. Too much cutting, I can't get sucked in and dreadfully unsubtle soundtrack ain't helping to much either.
  11. Deuterium
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 02, 2012, 08:47:13 AM

    I don't believe you are really that naive that you can't identify PR spun interviews. This is a Hollywood system movie designed for mass audiences... Not some art house movie or geek fest for those who think Predator is 'cool'. Scott, I'm sure, was well aware that he was making something that would guarantee bums on seats whilst being made with a modicum of intelligence... I don't think he was ever intending to make 2001:ASO or Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

    Darth,

    You totally lost me.  I am not sure what you are trying to say.  It seems as though you agreeing that Lindelof and Scott knew Prometheus' story was nothing but "hot air"...and that all the bullshit "deeper" meanings that they promised was nothing but window dressing and red herrings.  Which is what I have been saying from day one.
  12. Marlowe
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 02, 2012, 08:47:13 AM


    Scott, I'm sure, was well aware that he was making something that would guarantee bums on seats whilst being made with a modicum of intelligence... I don't think he was ever intending to make 2001:ASO or Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

    I'm with you Darth Vile. I've got the same vibe.The problem was when I read the synopses I thought something..I exaggerated in my mind what probably could be done with it.So it was something in my mind and other on his.I guess Ridley knew when the synopsis fell in network the public would think so many things far away from what he was thinking.

    He said almost before the movie premiere: "This movie is a meeting: 2001 with steroids!It's different".

    That's what opened my mind. But I do not consider myself to be cheated or disappointed. I'm pleased with what I saw.
  13. Darth Vile
    Quote from: Deuterium on Dec 02, 2012, 04:27:12 AM
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 01, 2012, 08:05:13 PM
    Not sure Prometheus was ever trying to be that... to be fair...

    Are you kidding me?  Did you guys see the same pre-release interviews by Damon Lindelof and Ridley Scott, that I saw?
    I don't believe you are really that naive that you can't identify PR spun interviews. This is a Hollywood system movie designed for mass audiences... Not some art house movie or geek fest for those who think Predator is 'cool'. Scott, I'm sure, was well aware that he was making something that would guarantee bums on seats whilst being made with a modicum of intelligence... I don't think he was ever intending to make 2001:ASO or Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
  14. Darth Vile
    Quote from: Deuterium on Dec 01, 2012, 05:18:19 AM
    Quote from: Zenzucht on Nov 30, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
    It's probably off-topic, but it does seems to me that the audiences are no longer able to figure the things out by themselves.. They want everything "on the golden plate", on-the-nose dialogue and show & tell scenes.

    .. and that's the complete opposite of what the movies should be.

    Hi Zenzucht,

    There exists wonderfuly provocative films of great subtlety, which contain intricate layers and meanings, and which motivate one's imagination to search for deeper meanings and messages. 
    Not in the Alien franchise there isn't - IMHO.
  15. Deuterium
    Quote from: Zenzucht on Nov 30, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
    It's probably off-topic, but it does seems to me that the audiences are no longer able to figure the things out by themselves.. They want everything "on the golden plate", on-the-nose dialogue and show & tell scenes.

    .. and that's the complete opposite of what the movies should be.

    Hi Zenzucht,

    There exists wonderfuly provocative films of great subtlety, which contain intricate layers and meanings, and which motivate one's imagination to search for deeper meanings and messages.  Prometheus is NOT one of these films, IMHO.

    Rather, it is an example of lame story-telling on the part of the writer(s), and poor execution on the part of the Director.  It is rife with plot-holes, inconsistent and non-sensical character behavior, ridiculous dialogue, and a fundamentally incoherent narrative that is built on a house of cards.  In sum...it is a complete and utter mess.  Again, IMHO.

  16. Zenzucht
    It's probably off-topic, but it does seems to me that the audiences are no longer able to figure the things out by themselves.. They want everything "on the golden plate", on-the-nose dialogue and show & tell scenes.

    .. and that's the complete opposite of what the movies should be.
  17. Peakius Baragonius
    Quote from: zakzak on Nov 27, 2012, 09:34:11 PM
    I have to admit some of the character motivations are plain bizarre. My guess is that the script had undergone so many changes & rewrites that nobody really know who and what anymore. There is a suggestion that Weyland has deeper connection to the Engineer's group. That Shaw & the crew are just experimental subjects not for Weyland but for the Engineers to fiddle with!

    Another strange line of dialogue involves David saying" If we don't wear a suit, you people wouldn't be comfortable.." Now there is a lot parallel drawn between David & the Engineers, that they are servants for Higher Authority.That kind of line is too loaded to be thrown around before the most suspenseful part of the movie, the first trip to the temple. The Engineers themselves wear a suit, the elephantine suit, so that they look "agreeable" in the presence of the Higher Authority: the Ganesha/Giant Space Jockey of the original ALIEN.

    Nice theory ;) That's actually really interesting?
  18. zakzak
    I have to admit some of the character motivations are plain bizarre. My guess is that the script had undergone so many changes & rewrites that nobody really know who and what anymore. There is a suggestion that Weyland has deeper connection to the Engineer's group. That Shaw & the crew are just experimental subjects not for Weyland but for the Engineers to fiddle with!

    Another strange line of dialogue involves David saying" If we don't wear a suit, you people wouldn't be comfortable.." Now there is a lot parallel drawn between David & the Engineers, that they are servants for Higher Authority.That kind of line is too loaded to be thrown around before the most suspenseful part of the movie, the first trip to the temple. The Engineers themselves wear a suit, the elephantine suit, so that they look "agreeable" in the presence of the Higher Authority: the Ganesha/Giant Space Jockey of the original ALIEN.
  19. SureSureSURE
    I don't really see him trusting or being convinced by Shaw etc as an issue. If it is too much of a stretch for us to go along with him being convinced by her scientific discovery and argument that's fine but it should also be recognised that, from my point of view, weyland is portrayed as being quite mad. It is more of the desperation for longer life that drives him rather than scientific or spiritual discovery, this is after all the most likely reason why the engineer kills him in the end.
  20. Darth Vile
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on Nov 27, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Nov 25, 2012, 10:46:58 PMNo - I'm pointing out that it's largely irrelevant to the masses of 'normal' moviegoers. Is the fact that Darth Vader takes a dissproprtionate amount of time to take a shot at Luke's X-Wing in the Death Star trench a massive script issue? Nope.

    Gotcha, but Vader waxing lyrical before shooting Luke out of the sky is pretty much mandatory for a villain like that - screen villains have always done it, and for some baffling reason continue to do it. While Weyland's motives are clear in the end, there is still no presented weight behind his decision to follow Shaw's hunch, which would not of seemed like so much of a hunch if the script bothered with some basic setup. A good writer could of wound these things in without the kind of cumbersome exposition that Lindelof seems to hate so much. Five minutes, max.

    And a lot of these gripes are not just fan gripes - they have come from all walks, we just care more.
    I hear what you are saying, but I just don't think an explanation as to why Weyland believed Shaw is necessary (even if done with minimal dialogue).... and it's certainly not a scripting issue IMHO, even if more exposition is desired. As mentioned before, from a narrative perspective, if we (the audience) did'nt get to see the Engineers at the start of the movie... then yes, the audience would need a modicum of understanding to clarify the driver for a multi billion $ mission into space. However, as we (the audience) already know Shaw is correct with her 'hunch' any further explanation of Weyland's reasons for believing her is moot.

  21. ChrisPachi
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Nov 25, 2012, 10:46:58 PMNo - I'm pointing out that it's largely irrelevant to the masses of 'normal' moviegoers. Is the fact that Darth Vader takes a dissproprtionate amount of time to take a shot at Luke's X-Wing in the Death Star trench a massive script issue? Nope.

    Gotcha, but Vader waxing lyrical before shooting Luke out of the sky is pretty much mandatory for a villain like that - screen villains have always done it, and for some baffling reason continue to do it. While Weyland's motives are clear in the end, there is still no presented weight behind his decision to follow Shaw's hunch, which would not of seemed like so much of a hunch if the script bothered with some basic setup. A good writer could of wound these things in without the kind of cumbersome exposition that Lindelof seems to hate so much. Five minutes, max.

    And a lot of these gripes are not just fan gripes - they have come from all walks, we just care more.
  22. Darth Vile
    Quote from: SureSureSURE on Nov 26, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
    It seems odd that most of the criticism here seems to be on the scientific accuracy or strange plot moves. I've got little problem with the plot, and smaller yet concern over the science behind the film. Alien was also ambiguous, which is why it is still so interesting today.
    The issue with Lindelof's script is plainly the dialogue....it's atrocious in parts ("you can pay me...on the other side" - ugh). This pulled you back and snatched away any sense of realism. In my opinion the jarring cruddy conversations were far more damaging to the film than these scientific issues.

    Even still...In my opinion it was a fine film....
    I'd agree with that... However I'd posit that Scott/Lindelof were going for 'hyper-reality' rather than 'realistic'... hence some of that Star Trek type dialogue that doesn't sound like real people talking in a realistic way a la Alien.
  23. SureSureSURE
    It seems odd that most of the criticism here seems to be on the scientific accuracy or strange plot moves. I've got little problem with the plot, and smaller yet concern over the science behind the film. Alien was also ambiguous, which is why it is still so interesting today.
    The issue with Lindelof's script is plainly the dialogue....it's atrocious in parts ("you can pay me...on the other side" - ugh). This pulled you back and snatched away any sense of realism. In my opinion the jarring cruddy conversations were far more damaging to the film than these scientific issues.

    Even still...In my opinion it was a fine film....
  24. Peakius Baragonius
    Quote from: Deuterium on Nov 22, 2012, 05:16:26 AM
    Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 22, 2012, 01:47:52 AM

    In Spaihts' draft, it's heavily implied that the Engineers "augmented" life on Earth to eventually produce a lifeform resembling them; presumably, this is the intended reason in the final film as well. 

    Which is the only thing keeping me from denouncing the film as complete horses**t.

    Hi PB,

    You may not necessarily have been following along to the previous posts/arguments...nevertheless, my point is that any such appeal to "external" explanations and/or clarifications, counts for absolutely nothing, in the context of the released film.  Whatever may or may not have existed in a prior draft script, has no bearing on what is actually presented in the official film.

    As serious fans, we can analzye and debate "what if" scenarios till the cows come home.  At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what is contained within the official film...as that is what the general audience will understand.

    If it isn't in the official film, it doesn't friggin' count.  If someone has to look to a draft script for information that does not exist in the final, released film, in order to answer fundamental narrative problems, then that constitutes a failure in basic story-telling and film-making.

    Hi Deuterium, the thing is that I myself came up with such an idea as I struggled to justify the film's apparent mockery of the scientific process. You're quite right however (hmmm, PB...I like it!  :P)

    EDIT: Just picked up on this little gem: "WATER. Intensely BLUE, untouched and PRISTINE as the rays of the SUN dance off its glasslike surface. CLEAR. UNTOUCHED."

    *facepalm*
  25. Darth Vile
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on Nov 25, 2012, 11:59:49 AM
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Nov 24, 2012, 04:23:52 PMYeah but we're arguning about it because we're Alien fans who are moved to discuss the minutia. For the millions of others who went to see it, Weyland's commitments to Shaw's convictions/beliefs are largely irrelevant.

    So the script is fine because nobody other than us fans gives a second shit?.. I am not sure what your point is here.
    No - I'm pointing out that it's largely irrelevant to the masses of 'normal' moviegoers. Is the fact that Darth Vader takes a dissproprtionate amount of time to take a shot at Luke's X-Wing in the Death Star trench a massive script issue? Nope.
  26. Darth Vile
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on Nov 23, 2012, 09:51:09 AM
    The recent argument here about why Weyland would bet so much on Shaw's beliefs could be easily assuaged by the inclusion of the Viral Eye clip or some exposition of the sort, and even more so by the entry in the Weyland Files on the BD suggesting that Weyland knew about the signal from LV-426 well before setting out for LV-223. Either one of those elements would of solved the problem and we wouldn't be arguing about it.
    Yeah but we're arguning about it because we're Alien fans who are moved to discuss the minutia. For the millions of others who went to see it, Weyland's commitments to Shaw's convictions/beliefs are largely irrelevant.
  27. ChrisPachi
    The recent argument here about why Weyland would bet so much on Shaw's beliefs could be easily assuaged by the inclusion of the Viral Eye clip or some exposition of the sort, and even more so by the entry in the Weyland Files on the BD suggesting that Weyland knew about the signal from LV-426 well before setting out for LV-223. Either one of those elements would of solved the problem and we wouldn't be arguing about it.
  28. SM
    Quote from: Deuterium on Nov 22, 2012, 07:13:29 AM
    Quote from: SM on Nov 22, 2012, 05:57:44 AM
    The "general audience" has easy access to all these info sources outside of the film too.

    Sure, in theory, everyone with an internet connection has potential access to these external "sources".

    However, in reality (and let's be honest, here), these resources constitute an "extended universe" that no ordinary, typical audience member would ever consult, much less know of it's existence.  It is only a relatively small, atypical and exclusive group (e.g members of this forum) that view such material...and have the pleasure to debate and argue over it's canonical legitimacy, or not.   ;) :)

    So all that money they spent on marketing was solely for our benefit then?
  29. Darth Vile
    Quote from: Deuterium on Nov 22, 2012, 07:13:29 AM
    Quote from: SM on Nov 22, 2012, 05:57:44 AM
    The "general audience" has easy access to all these info sources outside of the film too.

    Sure, in theory, everyone with an internet connection has potential access to these external "sources".

    However, in reality (and let's be honest, here), these resources constitute an "extended universe" that no ordinary, typical audience member would ever consult, much less know of it's existence.  It is only a relatively small, atypical and exclusive group (e.g members of this forum) that view such material...and have the pleasure to debate and argue over it's canonical legitimacy, or not.   ;) :)
    If we're talking audience perception/understanding... I completely agree with you. We can only take what occurs in the actual movie to debate if it achieved its aims. We must discount docs, deleted scenes or early drafts of screenplays. However, I just disagree with your conclusions. IMHO the movie does enough to allow the audience to connect the dots without the need for over exposition and talky dialogue that burdens similar sci-fi movies. It's the fine line between an excesible and an inteligent Hollywood product - which I think Prometheus treads quite succesfully (without ever doing it perfectly though I'd agree).
  30. Deuterium
    Quote from: SM on Nov 22, 2012, 05:57:44 AM
    The "general audience" has easy access to all these info sources outside of the film too.

    Sure, in theory, everyone with an internet connection has potential access to these external "sources".

    However, in reality (and let's be honest, here), these resources constitute an "extended universe" that no ordinary, typical audience member would ever consult, much less know of it's existence.  It is only a relatively small, atypical and exclusive group (e.g members of this forum) that view such material...and have the pleasure to debate and argue over it's canonical legitimacy, or not.   ;) :)

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