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Extended Cut To Be 20mins Longer?

Ridley Scott has just done a new interview with Collider where he discusses what we can expect from the upcoming blu-ray release of Prometheus.  Basically, there will be about 30mins of deleted scenes on the set and the Extended cut may very well be 20mins longer than the theatrical cut. His first cut of Prometheus clocked in at 2hrs 27mins. He also mentions a deleted scene involing Shaw and the Engineer fighting. Here’s the main quotes:

SCOTT: This is fundamentally the director’s cut.  But there will be half an hour of stuff on the menu because people are so into films—how they’re made, how they’re set up, and the rejections in it.  That’s why it’s fascinating.  So this will all go on to the menu.

Well I’m curious about the deleted scenes.  Specifically in this film, Noomi [Rapace] mentioned maybe there was a fight scene with her and an Engineer.

SCOTT: The Engineer fight scene was pretty good.  It will definitely go on the menu.  It won’t go on the long version.  The problem about it is, while she gives as good as she gets with an axe (she’s very physical), he’s so big, for him to be clouted with a conventional weapon somehow diminished him.  It’s subtle.  It’s drama.  I didn’t want to diminish him by having this person who has a weapon to be able to back him off.  It minimized him.  That’s why when he deals with people inside his cockpit, it’s over.  Wham, wham, wham.  Even the shot doesn’t mean anything.  And so all she has time for is introducing him to the big boy inside the lab.

You’re going to do an extended cut on the Blu-ray/DVD.  Is it a lot longer?

SCOTT: Twenty minutes.

Head over to Collider and watch the whole interview. Thanks to seeasea and MrSpaceJockey for the news.



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  1. NGR01
    Let me see if get this right:

    No Director's Cut, but in the blue-ray it will have deleted scenes?

    So hard to understand what Ridley said.

    Scott already delivered a directors's cut in theatre, this will be an extended or special or final or whatever edition.
    Dont bother mate.
    Up to the release Scott and co said whatever made the people get into theatre seats.
    They will do the same with the Blu.
    Lets just wait and sit patiently until they make an official announcement...
    But you can bet that there will not make everything available in the first release...
  2. Keg
    I think in some other movies like Blade Runner, Scott didn't have the final say on what the final cut was. He had that say in Prometheus, so what you see IS the director's cut.

    The execs or insane private investors held a gun to Ridley's head. There is no way the theatrical cut is THE cut. You believe what people say on publicity tours or internet interview pieces ? If this is the cut, why there is an extra of 20 minutes? 5 minutes may be fine, there may be some extended scenes here and there. But 20 minutes is the length of Ripley's final stand in 1979 ALIEN, from the discovery of cocooned Dallas to the fight with Xenomorph in the drop ship. That whole thing is 20 minutes !

    20 minutes is nothing. Theres probably hours of extra / alternate footage for every movie that never gets used in the final cut, that's always the case. Look at the extended versions of LOTR with anything from an extra 30 mins to an hour added to the film and there will still be countless scenes that didnt make it into the film evene after that.

    Having 20 minutes of deleted scenes isnt alot compared to some films.
  3. Ruk
    I think in some other movies like Blade Runner, Scott didn't have the final say on what the final cut was. He had that say in Prometheus, so what you see IS the director's cut.

    The execs or insane private investors held a gun to Ridley's head. There is no way the theatrical cut is THE cut. You believe what people say on publicity tours or internet interview pieces ? If this is the cut, why there is an extra of 20 minutes? 5 minutes may be fine, there may be some extended scenes here and there. But 20 minutes is the length of Ripley's final stand in 1979 ALIEN, from the discovery of cocooned Dallas to the fight with Xenomorph in the drop ship. That whole thing is 20 minutes !

    Well, in fact there is a video, and it is posted on the internet of an interview with Scott, and he says the movie is his cut. So, I guess I'll take his word for it. About the 20 minutes, he says the fight scene with Shaw and the Engineer originally did not involve a Xeno. It was just Shaw with her axe, and she won. I suppose that would have taken a few minutes. Scott said he changed it because he thought it was a little unbelievable that the diminutive Shaw could take the giant Engineer out like that. All 4 of the viral clips, I thought were good enough to be in the movie, IDK if the 20 minutes contains those clips or not. And there is mention of an extended conversation with the Engineer that was cut. "Apocolypse Now Redux" added 49 minutes to the original cut.
  4. zakzak
    I think in some other movies like Blade Runner, Scott didn't have the final say on what the final cut was. He had that say in Prometheus, so what you see IS the director's cut.

    The execs or insane private investors held a gun to Ridley's head. There is no way the theatrical cut is THE cut. You believe what people say on publicity tours or internet interview pieces ? If this is the cut, why there is an extra of 20 minutes? 5 minutes may be fine, there may be some extended scenes here and there. But 20 minutes is the length of Ripley's final stand in 1979 ALIEN, from the discovery of cocooned Dallas to the fight with Xenomorph in the drop ship. That whole thing is 20 minutes !
  5. FUBAR1945
    It's probably selfish and unrealistic, but I hope they put out a version with EVERYTHING that could be put back in without messing up the continuity of the film. They did that with the Watchmen's Ultimate Version (or w/e it was called), and it was SO GOOD. I could easily see Prometheus having a version like that, if all the extra scenes could be put in.

    +1 like FOX did to Aliens.
  6. evfanjake
    It's probably selfish and unrealistic, but I hope they put out a version with EVERYTHING that could be put back in without messing up the continuity of the film. They did that with the Watchmen's Ultimate Version (or w/e it was called), and it was SO GOOD. I could easily see Prometheus having a version like that, if all the extra scenes could be put in.
  7. Ruk
    Seeing Shaw chop up the Engineer with her trusty axe will be worth the price of the DVD.

    Let me see if get this right:

    No Director's Cut, but in the blue-ray it will have deleted scenes?

    So hard to understand what Ridley said.

    I think in some other movies like Blade Runner, Scott didn't have the final say on what the final cut was. He had that say in Prometheus, so what you see IS the director's cut.
  8. GreatKnower
    Honestly i don't think any real character building sequences were cut, The only dialog scene i think he cut is the full SJ/David conversation (2-3mins). The script just isn't very good with the character interactions. As far as the the other 17 mins, its all actions scenes of the "alternate opening",Full on R Shaw medpod scene. Full on R Milburn and Fiflield scene. Weyland escape/Fifield attack, Full on R rated SJ attacking crew, Full Shaw/SJ fight. That would makeup the 20 mins in my opinion.
  9. souNdwAve89
    I dunno, but I always had a small feeling that David was an altered android to be Weyland's personal assistant. Speaking of viral videos, I agree as well. When I watched Prometheus for the first time, I was disappointed they didn't include the TED Talk video because it gives the audience a better understanding of Weyland. It gives a much better explanation on why he wants to live longer or be immortal, but instead we got the theatrical explanation that he just didn't want to die. If the movie goers saw the TED Talk video, they would understand much better.

    I thought Quiet eye would have been a great touch after the excavation in Scotland to show her desperation to get funding for this trip. Not only does it make the funding for the trip more believable, but the video does a nice job introducing Shaw, her personality, what she does for a living, etc. I know that there are time constraints, but they could have just edited and make it shorter.

    Another thing is that they would have used the meeting the crew segment in the "Making of Prometheus" video. I think it would have been cool if they showed a montage of the crew. At 2:02

  10. szkoki
    probably the emotional part of Vickers after he killed Charlie was cut because robots cant cry or whatsoever for sure....but with the theatrical cut its still a question if she is a droid or not
  11. HybridNewborn
    Ridley has 20 minutes. Think about it: these have to be massive amount of scenes being cut. Take the original ALIEN. The moment Ripley discovers the cocooned Dallas to activating the self destruct mechanism to fighting the Xeno in the lifeboat at the very end is about 20 minutes. There could be something really substantial being removed from the movie other than bits and pieces. Thoughts?

    That's very true (although I think you meant to say that that scene was like 2 minutes, not 20 ;)). There could be some pretty heavy scenes scattered all throughout the production.
  12. zakzak
    Ridley has 20 minutes. Think about it: these have to be massive amount of scenes being cut. Take the original ALIEN. The moment Ripley discovers the cocooned Dallas to activating the self destruct mechanism to fighting the Xeno in the lifeboat at the very end is about 20 minutes. There could be something really substantial being removed from the movie other than bits and pieces. Thoughts?
  13. HybridNewborn
    One thing  that they really really need to include is the TED footage of young Weyland.  My friend saw the movie without seeing the virals and thought of Weyland as just a scared old man afraid to die.  The viral footage of Weyland really conveys his hubris and god complex, along with tying together a lot of the film, showing his ambition to actually be Prometheus.
    It also gives some insight to the lack of relationship between Vickers and Weyland. She refers to him as a "king" but to the theater audience, he is just a rich old man who wanted a son.  The TED footage shows how he really does want to build a kingdom, which is why he wants a son.

    I AGREE completely. The scene they should've cut is the archaeological dig at the Isle of Skye. The TED speech showing Weyland's God complex should come after the Engineer sacrifice at the waterfall contrasting the altruism of creation and the selfish ambition of young Weyland who compares himself to God. David 8 viral video could come in the middle of the TED presentation just like an introduction of a new product like those done by Google or Motorola. So when Weyland introduces David with all the talk of him not having a soul, the audience will not be overwhelmed. That briefing scene is so loaded with themes, ideas, plot that I don't know if regular audience who have not seen BLADE RUNNER and the concept of replicant could absorb all of it.

    David sub-plot, him wanting to free himself from Weyland, his contempt for humans, although ties into the whole theme of Gods and his children, should be in a different film altogether. I think this is the reason people are complaint abt the story being muddled. But Scott & his writers are aiming for a very dense story here. This should be a 3 hour scifi epic. Not a 2 hour action movie with little action and horror sequences.

    If Fox wants a stripped down action movie, they should remove the few gory scenes (Fifield rage attack) and remove one "F*ck"  word uttered by Milburn, and get a PG13 stamp on the movie (The MedPod can pass for a PG13 I think, there's much more gory violence in LORD OF THE RINGS movies and those get a PG13). Include some dog fight sequences between Prometheus ship & the Juggernaut, or at least show what other cool tech that the Engineer has. At least you are more focused on delivering the entertainment aspect of the movie.

    I agree completely. You could get a good 10 to 20 minutes more character and world-building by editing the TED talk, the Quiet Eye, and The Intro to David 8 into the intro to the film.
  14. zakzak
    One thing  that they really really need to include is the TED footage of young Weyland.  My friend saw the movie without seeing the virals and thought of Weyland as just a scared old man afraid to die.  The viral footage of Weyland really conveys his hubris and god complex, along with tying together a lot of the film, showing his ambition to actually be Prometheus.
    It also gives some insight to the lack of relationship between Vickers and Weyland. She refers to him as a "king" but to the theater audience, he is just a rich old man who wanted a son.  The TED footage shows how he really does want to build a kingdom, which is why he wants a son.

    I AGREE completely. The scene they should've cut is the archaeological dig at the Isle of Skye. The TED speech showing Weyland's God complex should come after the Engineer sacrifice at the waterfall contrasting the altruism of creation and the selfish ambition of young Weyland who compares himself to God. David 8 viral video could come in the middle of the TED presentation just like an introduction of a new product like those done by Google or Motorola. So when Weyland introduces David with all the talk of him not having a soul, the audience will not be overwhelmed. That briefing scene is so loaded with themes, ideas, plot that I don't know if regular audience who have not seen BLADE RUNNER and the concept of replicant could absorb all of it.

    David sub-plot, him wanting to free himself from Weyland, his contempt for humans, although ties into the whole theme of Gods and his children, should be in a different film altogether. I think this is the reason people are complaint abt the story being muddled. But Scott & his writers are aiming for a very dense story here. This should be a 3 hour scifi epic. Not a 2 hour action movie with little action and horror sequences.

    If Fox wants a stripped down action movie, they should remove the few gory scenes (Fifield rage attack) and remove one "F*ck"  word uttered by Milburn, and get a PG13 stamp on the movie (The MedPod can pass for a PG13 I think, there's much more gory violence in LORD OF THE RINGS movies and those get a PG13). Include some dog fight sequences between Prometheus ship & the Juggernaut, or at least show what other cool tech that the Engineer has. At least you are more focused on delivering the entertainment aspect of the movie.






  15. PredatorsInstinct
    Hopefully the majority of the extra material is used to establish the characters and their relationships. The film would be a thousand times better if we actually gave a shit about the people in it.

    I agree. I'm one of the people who doesn't mind that the films keeps its mysteries, but "who are these people and how do they relate to each other?" shouldn't be one of them.


    I agree, if you dont care for the character you'll get the AVP:R treatment. xD
  16. ChrisPachi
    Hopefully the majority of the extra material is used to establish the characters and their relationships. The film would be a thousand times better if we actually gave a shit about the people in it.

    For example, Janek and Shaw seem to share some kind of friendship or bond - Shaw has her hand on Janeks shoulder when they are landing, showing some kind of affection between them - but that is never established. All they need is a bit of setup (a conversation showing a natural rapport between them, perhaps some exposition about them becoming friends during mission training) and the scene towards the end in Shaw's quarters would be so much more effective.

    Who exactly is Ford and what are her motives?

    Why are Ravel and Chance so faithful to their captain?

    It wouldn't need much and the film would be a million times better for it IMO.
  17. Highland
    wow , glad I didn't watch the TV spots. Entire movie compressed into 1min 30sec. What a joke.

    Its ridiculous. I was looking around on youtube about a half hours or so ago, and one of the TV spots showed the full grown trilobite on the Engineer on the ground with Shaw scrambling away. I'm so thankful that I never saw that on TV, because that was the last thing I expected to happen when she was being pursued by the Engineer through the ship.


    I didn't see that one either. It all got a bit crazy on here with even the front page news starting to let the cat out of the bag before you even got to the forums.

    I had no idea what any of the creatures looked like or the Engineer. Apart from that one shot of the blue guy way back.

    I'll never come here or watch any trailers now in future. Hollywood seem hell-bent on sucking audiences in with trailer reveals. I've done the same with the Dark Knight. I've watched one trailer and even that was pretty spoilerish.
     

  18. Nightmare Asylum
    wow , glad I didn't watch the TV spots. Entire movie compressed into 1min 30sec. What a joke.

    Its ridiculous. I was looking around on youtube about a half hours or so ago, and one of the TV spots showed the full grown trilobite on the Engineer on the ground with Shaw scrambling away. I'm so thankful that I never saw that on TV, because that was the last thing I expected to happen when she was being pursued by the Engineer through the ship.
  19. Highland
    wow , glad I didn't watch the TV spots. Entire movie compressed into 1min 30sec. What a joke.

    I watched one trailer 3 months ago then left this joint. The movie was all the better for it.
  20. MrSpaceJockey
    That tv spot shoved in just about every footage not in the movie into the commercial.  Janek never said ho ho ho either, right? I was hoping this was an extended cut trailer or something for a sec.
  21. nieves50
    The fact that Ridley's already thinking about doing an extended cut makes me think that the extended cut has a very good chance of being included in the first release in October.

    That would be nice of him... ::)
    The movie might make sense with the extended cut since they obviously chopped it to pieces...

    According to the studio, Ridley and the writer; this movie was supposed to be epic. Hard to do on the alloted time. If Peter Jackson / New line cinema can do (3) 200min movies...I don't see Fox's excuses.

    I will not bash the film like many other have done. I just feel it was incomplete. I wanted to be inmersed in the universe, by the time the movie ended, I asked myself "what just happened?"...

    Freaking clueless..
  22. Vecrotus
    The fact that Ridley's already thinking about doing an extended cut makes me think that the extended cut has a very good chance of being included in the first release in October.
  23. Mr. Clemens
    If Ridley is putting deleted scenes back into the film (and I'm not convinced that he is), this extended cut will either be included in the first release in October, via seamless branching, or they'll wait a year or more to put it out.
  24. bleau

    In one interviews scott kept saying extra scenes will be available on the menu. So it took it as seperate from film.

    If you were actually paying attention he specifically said that the Shaw/Engineer fight would not be in the "long cut" but would be available on the Bluray.  He differentiated.

    The reason his answer seems so convoluted is becuase he has to consider the politics of saying anything that could be interpreted as not praising the cut of the film that is in theaters now, which would be stupid.

    "Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?"

    So what is your argument here?
  25. Cybercat

    In one interviews scott kept saying extra scenes will be available on the menu. So it took it as seperate from film.

    If you were actually paying attention he specifically said that the Shaw/Engineer fight would not be in the "long cut" but would be available on the Bluray.  He differentiated.

    The reason his answer seems so convoluted is becuase he has to consider the politics of saying anything that could be interpreted as not praising the cut of the film that is in theaters now, which would be stupid.

    "Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?"
  26. departedhero20
     ::) Well Cybercat Im not over reacting to anything im just posting news and giving my opinion and seen others reactions and opinions you dont like the post noted but i dont care if anyone likes it or not im just putting news and trying to help if people like it or not well thats their problem just like its your problem if u think its an overreaction well u cant expect everyone to react like u we are all different.  Me well i reacted concerned because i would love to see an extended version and so far ive read two different interviews tw different sites all say the same shit Scot doesn't want an extended cut so i posted to see what other think but thank you for your incredible contribution :P
  27. Cybercat
    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=44279.0

    cott cut Prometheus down from two hours and 27 minutes to two hours and four minutes, which does mean there may be upwards of 23 minutes of deleted scenes. He has already said there won't be an extended cut, but extended scenes will be made available on the Blu-ray.

    More info on the link above

    Wow, you linked to a thread by yourself where you're over-reacting to someone misunderstanding something Scott said in a totally different interview.  That sure proves it.   ::)  Scott has already mentioned a longer cut.  Of course he's not going to diss the version in theaters.   ::)
  28. TrixieVanSickle
    Just buy wisely. They'll release a diamond pack with blu ray  first, but they WILL release a plain DVD about a month later.

    Disney is famous for this.  They release the DVD/Blu Ray combo packs first then release the plain DVD a few weeks later.

    So don't go splurging on this if there's no extended version:
    http://www.amazon.com/Prometheus-Blu-ray-DVD-Digital-Copy/dp/B0085Z8F4A/ref=sr_tr_sr_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1339534786&sr=1-2

    buy this instead or just wait:

    http://www.amazon.com/Prometheus-Michael-Fassbender/dp/B005LAIHXQ/ref=sr_tr_sr_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1339534786&sr=1-1





  29. LIG
    That's what I'm getting at.  Even if he prefers the theatrical edition, an extended cut may show up anyway, courtesy of Fox.  If there's money to be made, they'll release it, with or without his blessing.

    I get the impression from some of Ridley's interviews that this maybe the case.
    I have a bad feeling we will be waiting a while for a DC, Fox will milk the theatrical one dry first!
  30. TrixieVanSickle
    That's what I'm getting at.  Even if he prefers the theatrical edition, an extended cut may show up anyway, courtesy of Fox.  If there's money to be made, they'll release it, with or without his blessing.
  31. LIG
    I'm wondering how much control he will have over extended cuts?  Alien Resurrection's director seemed to adore his theatrical version and refused to call the extended cut a director's cut but they made it anyway.  Fox may be able to release any version they want, it's just a matter of Ridley being happy about it.

    Maybe it's not a control thing? It could be possible that he prefers the theatrical cut (as with Alien)
  32. TrixieVanSickle
    I'm wondering how much control he will have over extended cuts?  Alien Resurrection's director seemed to adore his theatrical version and refused to call the extended cut a director's cut but they made it anyway.  Fox may be able to release any version they want, it's just a matter of Ridley being happy about it. 
  33. MrSpaceJockey
    the statements contradict each other, no?
    Quote:
    You’re going to do an extended cut on the Blu-ray/DVD. Is it a lot longer?

    SCOTT: Twenty minutes.

    So there’s, like, twenty minutes that will be added back in for a longer version?

    SCOTT: Maybe. But I’m so happy with this engine, the way it is right now. I think it’s fine. I think it works

    the interviewer assumes, that RS is doing an "extended cut" (ie roughly 20 mins longer than TC) ... he then asks, if RS will incorporate that +20mins into a longer version .. and RS answers "Maybe" .. but he's happy with it as it is ..

    can anyone make any sense out of that?

    I don't need a "deleted scenes" section in the BluRay Menu ... you need to have this stuff re-edited into a longer cut version of the movie !

    Well the Director's cut wasn't Scott's preferred version either, I believe.  And neither is the longer one here.  Either he's just saying it for now, or he really feels that the theatrical version is definitive.  But just like with the ALIEN directors cut, that won't stop extra footage from being reinserted, re-edited, etc.

    That's what I think.
  34. departedhero20
    the statements contradict each other, no?
    Quote:
    You’re going to do an extended cut on the Blu-ray/DVD. Is it a lot longer?

    SCOTT: Twenty minutes.

    So there’s, like, twenty minutes that will be added back in for a longer version?

    SCOTT: Maybe. But I’m so happy with this engine, the way it is right now. I think it’s fine. I think it works

    the interviewer assumes, that RS is doing an "extended cut" (ie roughly 20 mins longer than TC) ... he then asks, if RS will incorporate that +20mins into a longer version .. and RS answers "Maybe" .. but he's happy with it as it is ..

    can anyone make any sense out of that?

    I don't need a "deleted scenes" section in the BluRay Menu ... you need to have this stuff re-edited into a longer cut version of the movie !
  35. shinigami
    If the Blu-ray release will be 20 min longer, I will get a mindblow. It surprised me greatly when Aliens got additional 20 min in the Special Edition and I loved it. Seeing additional 20 minutes to this movie sounds like music to my ears.
  36. atlantis
    Spoken well, I totally agree

    I loved this movie. It doesn't have to answer every question one might have about it (Alien sure didn't, and that still has people brainstorming over 30 years later). Didn't think it was cut up or mashed into something terrible due to time constraints/Fox. If we all started immersing ourselves in movies and just letting our thoughts go for the duration, perhaps we can enjoy films again instead of always pretending to be critics on tv over-analysing every aspect.
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