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  1. Zenzucht
    If not one frame will be cut, what is the 20 mins of deleted scenes being advertised for the Blu Ray? ???
    There is a difference between scenes deleted by the director due to various reasons (e.g. pacing) and scenes deleted by the studios to achieve a certain rating (for which the director does not come into the equation).

    Yup, there can be great scene, which destroys the pacing of the movie.. But after you saw the movie million times, it can be "icing on the cake" for you.

    Like the chip switch scene in the Terminator 2 :)
  2. Vickers
    No offence but it's a tad too early to be releasing information on Blu-Ray and DVD features for a film that hasn't even seen its theatrical release yet.

    It also strikes me as a little odd that a random DVD company from France is the only one releasing this information.

    It's highly likely that somebody that works for 'DVD en français' is a Prometheus fan absorbing false information OR a Prometheus fan contacted them with this "exclusive" information.

    A lot of people are under the impression Ridley Scott mentioned 20 minutes being cut from Prometheus.  He was referring to 17 minutes from another film.

    To me, this is a case of broken telephone.
  3. Deuterium
    ...There is infinitely more craftsmanship in the first AvP film. There's at least an attempt at something resembling an overarching plot and story. An attempt at being competent. An attempt at balancing the creatures.


    AvPR ... Oh forget it. This stuff doesn't belong here.

    R does not equal good and the mass reaction to AvPR is proof of that.

    And let's not forget, as far as the first AvP film, an attempt at actual lighting...so we can at least see what the f**k is going on.   ;D
  4. OpenMaw
    ...There is infinitely more craftsmanship in the first AvP film. There's at least an attempt at something resembling an overarching plot and story. An attempt at being competent. An attempt at balancing the creatures.


    AvPR ... Oh forget it. This stuff doesn't belong here.

    R does not equal good and the mass reaction to AvPR is proof of that.
  5. Mastes1
    It won't be at all like AvP:R.  Mostly because nothing can be as bad, film wise, as AvP:R.  Worst movie ever made IMO.

    In my opinion, AvP is much worse than AvP:R.
    Yep i agree, both films are pretty bad imo but AVPR was more like the orig films with gore, bad language, Predator acting like a Predator, music lifted right from the films etc, it wasn't watered down shit like the first film.
  6. Gash
    Yes, but we've seen a non-bloody (just muddy) version of the trailer, and the latest trailer in which the claret has been re-instated, so I'd hope that's an indicator that the original vision is the one they're going with.

    No doubt, even if it is R/18, they'll be a stronger edit down the line just to cash in. It's happened before. 'Too strong for cinema' etc. In the era of DVD and Blu-Ray it's almost a given that an alternate take will appear, probably overseen by Ridley but not necessarily endorsed by him (if he gets the edit he wants now).
  7. ChrisPachi
    "I can assure the fans—I’m very aware of their concern—absolutely they can take it that the film will not be compromised either way.  So if that means that the film is R, then it’ll be an R.  If it’s PG-13, then it’ll be a PG-13, but it will not be compromised."

    .....man, by showing us potentially R rated material then talking about the film possibly being a PG-13, you're compromising it already.  What a w***er this guy really is!!!

    Typical weasel; using a lot of words to say a lot of f**k all.
  8. RoaryUK
    "I can assure the fans—I’m very aware of their concern—absolutely they can take it that the film will not be compromised either way.  So if that means that the film is R, then it’ll be an R.  If it’s PG-13, then it’ll be a PG-13, but it will not be compromised."

    .....man, by showing us potentially R rated material then talking about the film possibly being a PG-13, you're compromising it already.  What a w***er this guy really is!!!
  9. metalos
    I'm living in Hungary. The film rating in Hungary is: 12, 16, 18 (year above)
    The four Alien films was rated 18 what is equal R, all the Prometheus trailer was rated 16, what is equal to PG-13.
    I know, the trailer is not show too brutal violence (just the melting head, and other small things), and don't contain harsh language, but these things may in the eventual movie.

    I think, Ridley Scott's name is enough, that we get an awsome movie, he is a very precise director, he is making his movies quite attention, so i think, the Prometheus will be R or will be PG-13, but it will be a huge success.
  10. Wonderbrick
    I listen to Rothman's comments, and feel it is obvious the film will be PG-13, and he is trying to run damage-control until the last possible second.  If the film will be R, there is no reason not to announce that now.  If the film were R, the "hard R" would be a BIG selling point.  If they are aiming to make an R film, I find it hard to believe that Ridley's film would be so close PG-13 that Rothman would feel the need to leave it in the hands of the MPAA to decide.

    The only thing that has made me even slightly think it might be an R film is the de-scrambled audio puzzle.  But when you think about the way the visuals could be shot/edited, it would be easy to keep that scene PG-13, even if the audio alone sounds disturbing.
  11. fiveways
    how isnt it a story based link to Alien? Derelict? space jockey? Weyland? i mean come on... that "same universe" stuff is BS... its gotta be a real prequel to Alien..

    It's like star trek in my mind.  the original series leads into Next Generation, and they have some crossover but it is not the same thing.  Not a direct pequel.

    A direct prequel would suck.  After 30 years of people building up anticipation there is no way it could meet the fan base expectations.  "Chinese Democracy" anyone?
  12. ikarop
    More comments from Tom Rothman: http://collider.com/prometheus-rating-tom-rothman/162253/#more-162253

    Quote
    “[For] Prometheus, it would have been very easy—in fact probably in Chapter One of the Executive Handbook, if I ever read such a thing, it would say, ‘Go ahead, make a straightforward prequel to Alien.’  That would have been the easy thing to do.  Prometheus is the more challenging thing to do.  It’s bolder, it’s original, it’s in the universe, but it’s not a literal story-based prequel to [Alien], it’s a wholly new science-fiction entry from Ridley Scott, who hasn’t made a science-fiction film in 30 years.”

    “I can assure the fans—I’m very aware of their concern—absolutely they can take it that the film will not be compromised either way.  So if that means that the film is R, then it’ll be an R.  If it’s PG-13, then it’ll be a PG-13, but it will not be compromised.

  13. Mastes1
    Rothman and Scott have both said that they don't know which way the film will go, r or pg13 (yeah as if i believe that anyway) and that says to me that regardless of whether it ends up R rated, we are not going to see tons of gore and peoples heads getting smashed or tons of bad (realistic) language etc because if all that was in the film then there would be no 'confusion' over what rating this would get, it would be a hard R full stop!.
  14. T Dog
    Don't want to seem cynical either, but.....
    Rothman really comes across like a lying politician when addressing the ratings thing. I hope it's an 18s anyway. But if he's unsure then who knows what the hell they are submitting.
  15. Vickers
    I've also been lucky enough to read the original shooting draft for Aeon Flux (and no, it's not fan fiction - it's the real deal) and I can safely say the original cut would have been a far superior cut.  It just goes to show how much studio interference and the MPAA can affect what can be a potentially great film.
    Where? If you have it, send me a copy!

    It's a hard copy but I'll see what I can do. :)
  16. LarsVader
    I've also been lucky enough to read the original shooting draft for Aeon Flux (and no, it's not fan fiction - it's the real deal) and I can safely say the original cut would have been a far superior cut.  It just goes to show how much studio interference and the MPAA can affect what can be a potentially great film.
    Where? If you have it, send me a copy!
    Also interested.  :)
  17. Vickers
    Unfortunately, Kusama apparently said there will likely never be a director's cut on DVD due to the studio not caring enough and DVD sales being mediocre. Shame.

    The Invasion was an unwatchable piece of shit.  I understand Aeon Flux was much the same.  Talented directors on both films, studio troubles, but in both cases I questioned the overall production in addition to the interference.
    The Invasion is damn near unwatchable because what ended up in theaters was a studio hatchet job of epic proportions. Original director turned in his cut, which was apparently too subtle and suspenseful and cerebral, and was immediately fired. The film was then shelved for a year. Then the Wachowski's and that hack who directed V for Vendetta and Ninja Assassin were brought aboard to reshoot a third of the film, completely rewrite and reshoot the entire last act, add explosions and car chases, and brutally edit what was left of the original. One of the most egregious studio f**kups in history. Would love to see Oliver Hirschbiegel's original cut that so horrified them with its "artiness" and restraint.

    Strangely enough, Aeon Flux did really well on DVD as opposed to how it performed in the box office. It actually made its production and marketing budget back but this wasn't enough to convince the studios to release the original cut which, in my opinion, would have been far superior.

    Just some of the changes in Aeon Flux:

    Spoiler (click to show/hide)

    I've also been lucky enough to read the original shooting draft for Aeon Flux (and no, it's not fan fiction - it's the real deal) and I can safely say the original cut would have been a far superior cut.  It just goes to show how much studio interference and the MPAA can affect what can be a potentially great film.
  18. SpeedyMaxx
    I'm always curious to see what these films are like prior to the studio interference, but I thought virtually all of that film was terrible.  I remember the team vomiting scene being particularly hilarious, and the chubby Asian kid ordering Nicole Kidman around.  "Come, sleep!"

    I did like Downfall, mind, which I believe was Hirschbiegel, correct me if I'm wrong.
  19. Cvalda
    Unfortunately, Kusama apparently said there will likely never be a director's cut on DVD due to the studio not caring enough and DVD sales being mediocre. Shame.

    The Invasion was an unwatchable piece of shit.  I understand Aeon Flux was much the same.  Talented directors on both films, studio troubles, but in both cases I questioned the overall production in addition to the interference.
    The Invasion is damn near unwatchable because what ended up in theaters was a studio hatchet job of epic proportions. Original director turned in his cut, which was apparently too subtle and suspenseful and cerebral, and was immediately fired. The film was then shelved for a year. Then the Wachowski's and that hack who directed V for Vendetta and Ninja Assassin were brought aboard to reshoot a third of the film, completely rewrite and reshoot the entire last act, add explosions and car chases, and brutally edit what was left of the original. One of the most egregious studio f**kups in history. Would love to see Oliver Hirschbiegel's original cut that so horrified them with its "artiness" and restraint.
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