20th Century Fox has released a new viral video and image today, this time focusing on Michael Fassbender‘s character, David. David 8 is the latest android model from Weyland Industries and can “do almost anything that could possibly be asked of me” as well as “understand human emotions” without feeling them. Fox is also putting a full-page advertisement for David in The Wall Street Journal. Be sure to watch the video below.
Thanks to shamash for the heads-up.
Update 1: The websites Projectprometheus.com & Weylandindustries.com have been updated with plenty of new (locked) sections. Several news sites including Latinoreview.com have also posted new images showing a code in binary that will help you unlock “David’s emotions“.
Update 2: Make sure to check this section on the official website to read more about David’s emotions.
There is something terribly wrong with David 8. The corporation is not disclosing the truth. I worked on the project with others who have disappeared or were terminated.
It's important that they be stopped. I don't know how much longer I can access this terminal, but the public must know the danger that will be unleashed.
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This is deep
Eva. That stands to reason. The whole 'special mission' would have been no secret if they stuck an android on board at the last minute. Every suggestion from Ash would have been met with suspension from the word go.
Burke was 'white washing' and speaking in generalizations about the events of the Nostromo. Bishop only concurs that the generation of androids from that era (57 years back) were a bit twitchy. Ashes violence wasn't a product of his malfunctioning. His malfunctioning was a product of his violence. You could pretty plainly see that he was having trouble computing how to effectively kill Ripley. It was like watching a very old person with Alzheimer's disease trying to figure out what to so with once familiar cutlery.
It wasn't until he took that blow to the back of the head from Parker that he went really bonkers.
Well, I did write in my comment, that Ashs chassis could be the standard android, but his physical appearance would have to be quite unique. Otherwise, the crew would have recognized him as an android. It makes very little sense to design an android meant to pose as a unique human being, if there's a million other androids looking exactly the same.
He was bumped. Literally bumped, and he flipped his shit. No. It doesn't make sense that it would cause enough damage.
Yeah, humans can take damage, we can lose a limb or be stabbed and survive (provided the injury is treated of course) but on the same level as a synthetic? Not even... and WE can sustain a far harder blow to the head than Ash did without going into a coma or nuts. Ash was little pushed a little. That's it. It wasn't like Ripley took a bad to his freaking head for God's sake. You know it doesn't add up.
mmmm....good points
i'll have to ignore all this when I finally get to watch it
The place seems to have been dormant for a very long time. Things might have broken or simply corroded away. Also the possibility that, much like Egyptian tombs, once these powerful beings went to 'sleep', other species came along and plundered their facilities for anything particularly useful, meaning that, by the time human beings got there, much was stripped away.
1: Kinetic energy, especially between large objects, is tremendous.
2: What makes you think energy shielding is possible in this franchise? Or even that, if it were, that whatever the Space Jockeys might have made would necessarily be enough to protect against what happens in this?
3: There is also the very real possibility that, since they've been in some sort of hibernation for a massively long time, a lot of their systems might not even have survived in a functional state.
4: We have no idea at what stage of technological development they were in before going in stasis. It's very possible that they might have completely missed certain areas of technology which we didn't and vice versa. For instance, what if we had mass produced the jet engine in the 1920s/1930s, when it was discovered? Our present world might have been very different! There's a science-fiction story which deals with this. I forget the title, but it's basically an alien invasion story and the hostile visitors are eventually thwarted and destroyed by the deployment of armoured tanks: In their development, they never came up with the concept of them. Just because you can build spaceships and lasers doesn't mean you came up with spears or guns.
5: What 'they' found hugely powerful might not be the same to us. An example of this is the old thing you often find in science-fiction, where an alien species is shown to be superior because they have organic ships. The actual truth being that organic ships would be ridiculously easy to beat and vulnerable to all kinds of things the 'normal' ones are not!
Agreed...
If you take away the idea from Independence Day that we would be able to "hack" and alien computer system and infect it with a virus... which seems completely implausible, then they pretty much got the rest right in terms of us being completely unable to do much of anything except hide.
I'm not saying even an advanced race wouldn't be susceptible to attack, but not by ramming their ship... and it appears that the United States has more security for things they want to keep secret than the Jockey's...
First, i wonder how exactly such an advanced races do not have better protection of the access to their technology from intruders. This remind me of the alike of Stargate where humans were are able to do whatever they want in Goauld ship without being detected.
Second, i wonder how come a human ship seems able to damage a ship of this race to the point that this ship has no other choice than to crash. Is this race unable to build ships with protective shield or an completely indestructible, compared to human weapons or means, hull ?
I have alway find disapointing the inability of an ancient space faring race to have significant protection agaisnt lesser races.Normally, such a race should have at least once met an agressive race with similar technology level. How then this race manage to defend itself agaisnt other advanced hostile races ?
Third, i also wonder how a member of this race is not able to protect itself against a face hugger ?
I mean such an advanced race should have several safeguards against creature as limited as face hugger.
This is quite disapointing for an ancient space travelling race.
Why?
Humans can survive all sorts of things, but damage something critical and they can act very weird. It doesn't take a huge amount of force, depending on what you're trying to do.
I've got an MP3 player which can survive being run over by a vehicle, but I'm sure that if I accidentally harmed it in some other way it wouldn't perform fabulously.
We have no way to know what Ash's structural limits were or how the processors were protected. Or, for that matter, if it had an existing error which was being aggravated.
I've always said that the method by which it attempted to kill Ripley signified something was very wrong. It's horridly inefficient. But it's always seemed like the intention was to show that Ripley's actions led to some sort of cognitive errors. Someone with more time than I can try and see if there are any quotes or anything on the various director commentaries to verify this aspect.
Don't forget, either, that Ash was acting apparently fine after decapitation. It seemed to be more of a situational thing.
Yeah see, I'd have a hard time buying that these androids can be cut in half, and have their heads knocked off, and still be in some fashion functional, and yet just a bump to the head is all it would take to send them into a homicidal incident.
Especially when you consider that there was nothing in Ashes orders stating he should try to make type vicariously with a magazine to Ripley's face. A machine, even one that's bugging out, is going to try to stay as close to programming. Deal with the crew by killing them means. Snap their necks, liquefy their hearts with a punch to the chest. Ash clearly has some immense strength given what we see of him in the fight with Parkar.
Still. I think David really is shaping up to be one of the more interesting film characters I've seen in any sort of film for quite some time. If he's done properly within the film he could rival many other android characters.
Yes sir, totally concur.
Unless it was new or a prototype version.
Burke and Bishop stated otherwise.
It certainly could come across that way, but she barely 'smacks him around' IMO. She just pushes him up against a wall. I would hazard that it's more what OpenMaw said; that he comes across a situation that he is not prepared to deal with, ie. being found out. His response to this is purely instinctive from that point on.
However, Ashs 'chassis' if you want to call it that, could be from the standard mold. But his physical appearance and mission agenda clearly wasn't.
Camera close up of David´s face.
"...War ...
... Poverty ...
... Cruelty ..."
Camera closer to David´s face.
"... Unnecessary violence"
It looks like the video wants to highlight this nuance regarding violence. I wonder what David could be programmed in each moment to understand as necessary or not ...
Ash seems fine until Ripley smacks him around. After that we see white fluid leaking indicating he is damaged, you also get a nice subtle performance by Holm with flickering eyes, etc. when he ponders what to do with Ripley after knocking her out.
I'd say Alien clearly shows Ash is following his programming fine then Ripley breaks some of the inner workings inside his head when she unexpectedly erupts and bashes him around. After that he goes wonky in how he operates.
Remember his programming the whole time was to protect the Alien. Clearly at some point that might mean getting rid of any crew who oppose him and clearly he was more than willing to do so. He just went "funny" in how he went about things because his functioning was impaired due to damage.
It's not indicated in the film, but I always assumed the situation with Ash going peculiar was caused by some kind of a conflict in his programming more than anything. Much like HAL in 2001.
That's not "tampering". That's just giving the thing new instructions.
Tampering would be along the lines of literally altering its programming. Ash never gave any such indications. Computers don't interpret one set of orders as dodgy and another as not. If a computer's capable of seeing them through, then it'll see them through. Whether or not the machine is optimally designed to carry out a particular task or not, is neither here nor there.
As for Ash's model, Bishop did state "the A/2s always were a bit twitchy", implying they were not yet at the level of processing which the Bishops are.
However, it's worth keeping in mind that we don't know if Weyland-Yutani made Ash or not. Building robots might be something they got out of, by that time. I'd say we also don't know if they made the Bishops, but the quote in 'Alien 3', where Bishop mentioned all data going back to the company's network, implied they might have. We don't know the background of that, though - Bishop might simply have been aware of it happening with other equipment, as opposed to being responsible for facilitating it.
Module 1.4 of the Weyland Industries investor information has a breakdown of the aspects of each David model from 1 to 7. Here: https://www.weylandindustries.com/investor
My guess is either he is an advanced model. David 8 could be in the line of 8 advanced andriods or cause they express eight emotions (or the eight generation of davids) Or an update of the synthetic models made them have this error and they fix it in the later models. Like windows XP being great while Vista has multiple problems.
I would say you're being a bit stingy too in one respect SM. Ash was given special orders. IE: programmed, tampered with, to do something likely outside of the regular programming of these "suit" type droids.
I very much doubt the company built their robots to go on magazine oral rape and attempted murder sprees. Granted, it does make for a rousing Friday night...
Nothing you've said indicates he was tampered with.
If he never had behavioural inhibitors - which would seem to be the case based on what Bishop said - all he did was obey the special order he was given. He did what he was built to do.
Bishop indicates that behavioural inhibitors are a recent development.
And yet, this contradicts what's immediately said before. David says that he does become sad. That he's capable of being sad. Even goes so far as to specify what causes him to be so - situational concepts.
Then states he doesn't "feel" emotions?
This is contradictory. If he's sad, then he's sad. And if outside stimuli causes it, then he's prone to it interfering with designated tasks.
Just like how he's logically also capable of feeling lonely and resentful upon realising he's effectively nothing but slave labour - and capable of taking action to liberate himself from that. This is why it's an idiotic idea to give machines like that this capacity and why it will never happen in reality.
I've got nothing against the actor's portrayal. Just the tired concept of robotic labour assistants/project managers with 'feelings'.
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Heck, I suppose that is possible. Nice catch. I think most of us are thinking the number represents the newest model in an already established David series. However, is there any official reference to a David "7" or earlier? You might be absolutely correct, mate.
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I just took it as him being the eight model in Weyland's David line. I'm sure Ash and Bishop had numbers as well.
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it has even a "narrator" at the beginning.
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