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Possible Prometheus Creature Pictures Leaked

Cinemart have just posted up what seems to be two new images of an actual prop used in Prometheus. According to their studio source, this prop is a prosthetic mask designed specifically for an actor to wear and described as the face design for “the alien”. Which certainly looks like the Space Jockey seen in ALIEN. You can read their own description of the mask below.

The prop (organic looking design), in mould stage (white coloured), is a human skull with large eye sockets (slightly apart than normal) and what looks like another layer of bone having grown over it. The extra layer is in the form of what we know as the facehugger (without the legs). There is a trunk-like nose where the creature’s tail would naturally be in this position (or the appendage underneath used to lay the egg into a recipient). The prop is a prosthetic mask without makeup added, but the insider also said the creature featured in Prometheus has been executed with very little CGI planned. The appearance of the mask is of a human skull with facehugger frame on top.

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  1. Kev Loaf
    Something that always fascinated me was wondering how the SJ became impregnated in the first place. Be like a facehugger trying to impregnate an elephant. Suprised knowone has mentioned that in the original ALIEN 'that' trunk is connected directly to the creatures chest, so I can't imagine how it is anything to do with a hugger or the green goop from those Urns. Just me?
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    Could this be the chair turned alive by the genesis ooze?!
  2. Toy
    Ok. I'm starting to buy into this two alien species theory here. SJ's and Engineers. One big thing is convincing me of this.The flying "saucer" ship seen over the waterfall seems like a distinctly different technology than that of the "derelict" ship on Acheron. Thus, TWO species.The "saucer" is something we have not seen before in the "Alien" universe.

    100% Agreed, two species and then whatever the monster/vulture in the myth is.  It seems like they might place the "gods"  as the owners of that saucer-looking craft, and the Titan race as the space Jockey; however, I could easily see it being the other way around.  The gods atop mount Olympus are depicted as very human, have character flaws, full personalities etc. So these could actually be the tall, bald guy(s).  Also matches the Nephillim, Annunaki, and in a way the legends about the tall, pale Atlanteans.

     Prometheus/the Jockey Race, being Titans, can still be the Elder gods that are later replaced by the Olympian gods, often described brutally, but in metaphor. These are decidedly less human characters when you really look at it.  For example Gaia, the idea of the Earth Goddess, is a Titan. The greek myths talk about one of the Titans, I think Kronos, being castrated by Zeus as part of their cosmology (idea of how the cosmos/earth came into being) and takes place above the Earth. Later on Prometheus is practically seen as a servant to the "gods" who reign alongside Zeus.

    So the "gods" replace some of the Titans as rulers over the Earth in a sense. This may be key, because it has lots to do with Prometheus going against the wishes of the gods and giving humanity the flame like in the story that we all should know by now. What most probably don't know is that Kronos was devouring his children because he knew one of them would eventually overthrow him. This is why I believe the idea that the Space Jockey became a slave race of the gods is true. Gaia hides the child in a cave deep in the bowels of the Earth/herself, where Kronos can't see. And eventually that child comes back and castrates him, reigning monsters down across the land in the process as his dripping blood/semen falls in the ocean, creating islands .Much later there is a war between the Titans  and the gods, and Prometheus lives with the current round of humanity on the Earth. Then his whole story starts, where he helps the humans by giving them the flame.

    I think the gods' punished the Jockey/Titans by taking them off-Earth with them in the distant past; stranding them on distant rocks, and making them a slave species, test subjects, fused creatures, and hosts for their genetic experiments i.e. the vultures.  I think the gods are actually represented by that human-like child(Zeus) that grew to castrate and enslave its maker (The Jockey/Kronos) raining down and creating the first wave of the Greek monsters into the ocean.
    There's a chance the tall, bald guy is originally from Earth in the Ancient Past, but they came to rule over those that made them. And that the Jockey may still be a creature inside the suit.
  3. ChrisPachi
    The tubes don't need to make sense because the alien itself doesn't make sense.

    That's true, but if you are going back to deal with the creature's origins it may be something that you want to address. You might look closely at the creature and try to work out a logical evolutionary path to each and every aspect of it, at the very least to inform your future design decisions. It's kinda like creating exhaustive back stories for the crew of the Nostromo. It fleshes out the concepts and informs the film, even though it is never actually addressed on screen.

    I like the idea of the tubes having some evolutionary function personally. A trait it inherits from it's parent. I'm betting the Jockey is going to have something very similar.

    -Chris
  4. Cureguy1
    Ok. I'm starting to buy into this two alien species theory here. SJ's and Engineers. One big thing is convincing me of this.The flying "saucer" ship seen over the waterfall seems like a distinctly different technology than that of the "derelict" ship on Acheron. Thus, TWO species.The "saucer" is something we have not seen before in the "Alien" universe.
  5. ThisBethesdaSea
    *note*

    The above all caps exuberant Predator rant was complete sarcasm aiming at those desperate for a Predator connection. I couldn't want anything less if I tried.

    I also like the tubes on the original creature...I thought it contributed to its otherworldliness quite well. The tubes don't need to make sense because the alien itself doesn't make sense. The creature in ALIEN3 lacked them and it never felt balanced.
  6. Deuterium
    The above sculpture of Giger's original Alien 3 design, made me think of this...

    I recently read that Giger came to dislike his inclusion of the "pipes" along the original Alien's dorsal spine/back.  I understand his artistic motivation for including these protrusions was in order to "break up the creatures human shape".  Frankly, I think this detail was a stroke of genius.  He probably came to view these as a bit  "tacky".  However, I think the fact that they are so outrageous, and do not make any obvious biological "sense", is what makes the creature all the more "alien" and surreal.
  7. MrSpaceJockey
    It's pretty obvious now, that the facehugger impregnanted the YAUTJA (Hish species, i.e. "The Predator"). 

    God created the predator species, who breed humans through the ampule samples so they can hunt Homo sapiens sapiens for sport.  After the Prometheus crew mess around with TecHishnology, the facehugger species is born, attacks the PILOT YAUTJA (Reponsible for transporting human seed across the universe to hunt), and melts into the predators face.  As the rest of the metal jockey TRANSPORT SHIP turns into an organic and bone like form, the hugged pilot crashes the ship onto LV-426. The jockey "tube" is really the hugger tail attached to the Hish's face. The predalien is born and now, the remaining Yautja crew (Dall, Ripper, and Parckker), must team up with Noomi and Theron to defeat the new, xenomorph alien extraterrestrial species once and for all.
  8. Cecil
    Hardly enough though, it would only have room from the sides, which isn't much at all, so it can't really get a good grip and the Jockey could easily knock it off itself.

    Unless it was dead, or somehow incapacitated, or, by virtue of being in the chair, unable to move at all. One theme that stands out is that the Jockey is some kind of sacrificial lamb, a theme that has strong echoes of the Prometheus myth. The SJ is frozen in it's seat, as if it was in the middle of doing it's everyday thing - there are no signs of any kind of struggle.

    -Chris

    I don't see the point of impregnating something that isn't living, you would think it needs a living source to do so. But the other thing you said interests me...

    So instead of Prometheus being chained to a rock, (If that is how the "Prometheus" lore goes, I'm not 100 percent sure.) we have the Jockey attached to a chair?  Interesting, I never thought of it that way.

  9. ThisBethesdaSea
    OH IT'S PREDATOR RELATED!!!!

    THEY PROBABLY CREATED THE SPACE JOCKEYS AFTERALL...I WONDER IF RIDLEY WILL INCLUDE HOW THEY WERE MADE AND MAYBE WE'LL SEE A PROTO PREDATOR? AFTER ALL THE JUMPING GUY IN THE TRAILER LOOKS PREDATORISH!!!

    FACT!!!!!!


    LOLz....;)
  10. Kol
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    ich liebe dch!  ;D

    there's the evidence. the jockey weared a facehugger, all along and now we know, that they don't just create the aliens and humans, but the predator, too!

    you people should deal more with the ancient astronaut theory (prä-astronautik), instead of the dubious proto-facehugger.
    aliens made US. i love it, that the movie deals with this theme.
  11. ryanjayhawk
    3) 2nd generation xeno + human = don't know. Perhaps if each parent, throughout each generation, were a human... the xeno's would themselves become more human in appearance??? We got an element of those more human qualities in Aliens, it could be argued

    I don't think you can breed the "alien" out of the Alien.  On that theory given enough generations a human embryo would be implanted...

    My assumption has always been that the Xeno's were created and as such will function the same unless genetically tampered with.
  12. Darth Vile
    I think that's about the size of it i.e. the xeno's will take their appearance (the bio/mechanical elements) from the SJ's.

    1) Organism + SJ's = whatever is responsible for the eggs in Alien
    2) Alien egg organism + Kane = the xeno we know and love
    3) 2nd generation xeno + human = don't know. Perhaps if each parent, throughout each generation, were a human... the xeno's would themselves become more human in appearance??? We got an element of those more human qualities in Aliens, it could be argued
  13. ChrisPachi
    Wait a minute... Does this mean that what we always considered as part of Jockey`s face is actually some form of proto face hugger?

    I quite often thought it was.  Interesting.

    Very much so. Think of it this way: if you had to reconstruct where the alien came from in a way that tied faithfully back into the original film, you would take into account every aspect of the original monster. It's human-like form comes from it's host, but it's non-human-like aspects come from the SJ. Why does it have those seemingly useless 'tubes' on it's back? Maybe because it's 'parent' had the same thing in order to plug into the chair?

    Why does it have a tail? Errr...

    Acid for blood? Umm...

    -Chris


  14. ChrisPachi
    Hardly enough though, it would only have room from the sides, which isn't much at all, so it can't really get a good grip and the Jockey could easily knock it off itself.

    Unless it was dead, or somehow incapacitated, or, by virtue of being in the chair, unable to move at all. One theme that stands out is that the Jockey is some kind of sacrificial lamb, a theme that has strong echoes of the Prometheus myth. The SJ is frozen in it's seat, as if it was in the middle of doing it's everyday thing - there are no signs of any kind of struggle.

    -Chris

  15. PrometheusFire
    Whatever layed the egg that spawned the 1st chicken...............drum roll........... Was not a chicken!!!
    Stop thinking an alien queen layed an egg that spawned a facehugger that impregnated a sj that burst out and became a queen that layed eggs in the basement of the sj craft blah blah blah
  16. danrald
    The article states... "The image does look a bit like a Space Jockey but with some differences… the jutted out jaw looks very Xenomorph style and the top part of the skull screams ‘facehugger’."

    I think I've seen this image they are talking about.. I there is an image in the released trailer that I would like to share, but no one has caught on.. I've looked all over the web and no one has reported this image.. would anyone like to see.. I don't know who to go to with this... so I figured this is the best place.. right?

  17. Cecil
    So I think it would have to be a mask for this to happen, the Jockey must not have been wearing it at the time that the Facehugger impregnated it.

    The Jockey's mouth is open, so the facehugger still had 'access' (ugh). The other possibility is that there was no facehugger at all but rather the mask it wears is somehow the breeding device. An idea was posted a while back that the SJ was chestbursted out of necessity due to the SJ being in distress or dead.

    I myself have always wondered why the SJ seems to have a reversed rib cage, the ribs coming from the back and touching, but not joining, at the front. It could be that they give birth this way and the SJ being dead forced the 'baby' to break it's way free. Humans, same thing.

    Hardly enough though, it would only have room from the sides, which isn't much at all, so it can't really get a good grip and the Jockey could easily knock it off itself.
  18. ChrisPachi
    So I think it would have to be a mask for this to happen, the Jockey must not have been wearing it at the time that the Facehugger impregnated it.

    The Jockey's mouth is open, so the facehugger still had 'access' (ugh). The other possibility is that there was no facehugger at all but rather the mask it wears is somehow the breeding device. An idea was posted a while back that the SJ was chestbursted out of necessity due to the SJ being in distress or dead.

    I myself have always wondered why the SJ seems to have a reversed rib cage, the ribs coming from the back and touching, but not joining, at the front. It could be that they give birth this way and the SJ being dead forced the 'baby' to break it's way free. Humans, same thing.

    5: baby is born, everybody dies

    A good summary of the entire series. 8)

    -Chris
  19. Cecil
    You know, it kind of makes sense that it is a mask, or a whole suit. Because well, if it was really bone, and the trunk is attached to the chest, that's what it looks like to me at least, and if that is the case, how would a Facehugger ever get to impregnate it? It was covering the front of Jockey's mouth. And we can clearly see the Jockey was "chest bursted."

    So I think it would have to be a mask for this to happen, the Jockey must not have been wearing it at the time that the Facehugger impregnated it.
  20. ChrisPachi
    If this prop is not a head, then I am thinking that the helmet/faceplate/gas mask thing it represents is a living device and is the way that the new aliens, whatever they are, procreate. Shaw may be captured and have this thing forcefully 'installed', after which she is released or escapes, all knocked up with something. This idea could then somehow follow on to the life cycle for the original alien, being a modified evolution of the same process. Shaw could even give birth to it's progenitor; something that is then taken by her abusers for their own nefarious purposes.

    -Chris

  21. ViperBlue
    I think what we hate is the we've lived for 30+ years imagining what we've wanted...and Ridley has returned saying "well this is what I think it is." It's never been confirmed what the Space Jockey race was or is....it's all been pure fan speculation. Now, we're about to get concrete proof in the form of a film possibly explaining it even more. If the SJ is humanoid, it's not bad, it's just not what we've been imagining all these years. Let's give Scott some space (no pun intended) to flesh out his ideas before we call it bollocks!???

    Well said!
  22. Kol
    @ Mustangjeff:

    to me it doesn't make much sense that the alien inside the suit, looks exactly (or with a subtle change) like the suit.
    do astronauts look like a space suit, when taking it off?  :laugh:

    maybe the suit is deforming, after death. like the whole jockey ship, maybe...

    True, but our space suits do have the same general shape; round head, two arms, two legs, etc.  And, we of course don't have biomechanical technology  :D  It could be a matter of form fitting function.  Our suits simply allow us to survive in a vacuum, where their suits, being partly organic and mechanical, are an extension of their body. 

    To me the object being scanned is flat across the bottom with a large opening so it could go over the top of a head, while the head in the newly leaked images actually extends down into a neck that would fit on an actors head.

    I figure if I speculate enough I'll have to get something right..  Maybe..

    i don't get one thing: why has THE SUIT to look exactly as his wearer??  ???
    the bald guy could wear that helmet, too.

    if the jockey suit adapts the wearer appearance and change the look, depending on it's dna, that would be the contrary effect of a chestburster; that uses the dna of the host to evolve and look like it's host (bipedal, etc.).

    Quote
    However in the shorter version, the man who does an English voice over during the Giger's section says

    his accent: just hilarious!  :D
  23. ThisBethesdaSea
    I think what we hate is that we've lived for 30+ years imagining what we've wanted...and Ridley has returned saying "well this is what I think it is." It's never been confirmed what the Space Jockey race was or is....it's all been pure fan speculation. Now, we're about to get concrete proof in the form of a film possibly explaining it even more. If the SJ is humanoid, it's not bad, it's just not what we've been imagining all these years. Let's give Scott some space (no pun intended) to flesh out his ideas before we call it bollocks!???
  24. wmmvrrvrrmm
    I suppose another thing to think about is that certain entities in Giger's paintings, I assume the Necronom series as well , were supposed to be people in exoskeletons, perhaps one might think almost as protective suits, maybe Scott was somehow playing with that level of thought.


    In the Longer version of "Alien Evolution" documentary Giger said said "I wanted to make something that would be somehow human but that would also be robot-like, a kind of human that is protected from all kinds of external forces, be they weapons, radiation or whatever else. Instead of having their bones on the inside, they have them, partly at least, on the outside like an exo-skeleton. I mixed these together, this world of bones , mixed it with technical things, that's how these 'biomechanoids' came about from the interplay of the biological and the mechanical."

    However in the shorter version, the man who does an English voice over during the Giger's section says ""I wanted to make something that would be somehow human but that would also be robot-like, that is to say a kind of human being that is protected  by bone. And I mixed these together, this world of bones , I mixed it with technical things, that's how these 'biomechanoids' came about, that is from the biological and the mechanical interplay of the two."
  25. Deuterium
    ARGHHHHHH!!!!

    I hate the "jockey is a humanoid in a suit" concept.  Why of why Ridley did you decide this was the way to go???

    IMHO, it completely demystifies the "alieness" of Giger's iconic Space Jockey.  The original Space Jockey is so surreal, and un-wordly.  I loved the blend of bio-mechanical and organic design.  I loved the concept that the Derelict ship, and "perhaps" the crew was grown rather than "built".  The twisted, unsettling imagery and question of where did the Space Jockey begin and where did it's console leave off, is pretty unique (or at least was) in all of Science-fiction.

    Somehow, the concept that it is just something "in a suit", makes it so pedestrian and "terrestrial".

    Of course, I hope that Ridley pulls this off, and takes this in new direction, and by NO MEANS am I writing this off.  But, as it stands now, I am not enamored with this concept.
  26. ChrisPachi
    1) It appears the bald guy is wearing some kind of biomechanical suit in the below picture. 2) He's huge! He is big enough to fit in the chair
    I don't think so. He may be big, but he is half the size of the original Jockey. The chair is far too big for him, ergo the Space Jockey is something else entirely.

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    -Chris

    The spacejockey from ALIEN was a suit,with the suit on he would fit in the chair,why do you think this thread was started,the leaked pictures of the spacejockey head is a helmet.

    It has been stated many times that it's a suit.
    I know Scott has said that the original Jockey is a suit, but we don't know whether the leaked prop is a helmet or not - there isn't even consensus about whether the head in the trailer is a helmet or a skull. All evidence seems to suggest it is part of a suit, but we don't know for sure.

    Just my own opinion of course, but I can't accept that the bald humanoid in the trailer can don a Jockey suit and magically double in size, which he would need to do to be even close to fitting into the chair like the original Jockey did (his arm is half the length of the originals). That's why I am saying that this bald fella, even with a Jockey helmet on, is not the same being as the Space Jockey in the original film. There are too many differences, size being just one of them.

    If indeed his suit is the size of the original Jockey, then he needs a new tailor. ;)

    -Chris
  27. Xenomoron
    There is no way that is a mask.  It would be just so, well....stupid!  Why would a being that has some futuristic looking biomechanical body suit put on something that looks like an organic/fleshy second skin as a face mask?  That would be like me all decked out in hockey gear putting on a couple of slices of mortadella on my head and calling it a face mask.   At least have something more technologicically advanced.  Seriously, why would you, as a being with a nose, a mouth, ears and eyes out on something that is just another version of a nose, a mouth....?  To what end?  How does he put it on, like those old wrestling masks the Killer Bees used to wear--tying it with strings at the back? ;) Just because Ridley says that the Space Jockey wears a suit, it doesn't mean that this head we see here has to be a mask, or that there will be no real alien presence in the film apart from a humanoid in disguise.  At the risk of being proven wrong, this, to me, is a legitimate being in its own right.

    I hope.

    Just to be clear, I'm not calling any speculations stupid.  I'm just saying if Ridley did this, to me, it would be pretty far fetched.  But I would wait to see the film first, of course!

    I think you misread it. They only said it's a prosthetic mask designed specifically for an actor to wear. Pretty much like any other Predator, River Ghost, etc... creature prosthetic masks. The SJ could be a suit as suggested in previous interviews. But it's neither confirmed, denied or suggested by these pictures. It could be anything.

    No, I was specifically talking about the ridiculousness of the  SJ "character" wearing the mask, not the actor playing the character wearing it.  All I am trying to say, since many assume the bald guy to be the jockey, is it would be pretty ridiculous if a mask he wears (if he does wear a mask) makes him look like the bust we see leaked in this thread.  Conceptually, it would make no sense for a flesh and bones mask to cover a flesh and bones face.  That's why I don't think the bald guy is the jockey.  I think that bust is a being in its own right, and not just a masked humanoid being..
  28. Jenga
    I don't think it is a facehugger as we know it. The face hugger design could of been originaly thought up to supply oxygen to the wearer (but later used as a bio weapon delivery system. We all know the facehugger keeps the victim alive when its planting its seed. What if the space jockey suit is part facehugger in the sense its more of an oxygen feeding device to the wearer.

    You have the humanoid face with the attached "facehugger" (to provide oxygen) and then on top of that you have an outer skeleton for protection.

    Only problem I have with this pictures is, that they don´t show the quality of sculpt which would be usual for a multi million flick production.

    its prob a prototype testing the mold and casting methods

    Think the idea of an earlier biological mask/respirator that inspires the facehugger biological design is really interesting. I'm very much of the mind that H.R. Geiger designs many biomechanoids (as RS likes to call them) with very similar features and visual ideas. My guess is we'll never see anything as indepth as direct hinting to anything like the design progression we are discussing. I think that is the kind of conjecture that is sadly only left up to the ubernerds like us :)

    As for the locusta's comment about the quality of sculpt, I disagree completely. What we are seeing here is a raw latex mask pulled right out of the mold. They would look exactly like this before they are finished and and lit. That said that is a pretty nasty parting line/seam along the nose/trunk and the sides do like somewhat mismatched but seriously, this is how a latex mask looks when pulled. Painting does more than just add a realistic color and texture, it also is used to enhance and the effect of crevices and lines in a creatures face by painting them to look deeper than they really are in the sculpt. You can't make things too deep or you will have trouble demolding.
  29. Mustangjeff
    @ Mustangjeff:

    to me it doesn't make much sense that the alien inside the suit, looks exactly (or with a subtle change) like the suit.
    do astronauts look like a space suit, when taking it off?  :laugh:

    maybe the suit is deforming, after death. like the whole jockey ship, maybe...

    True, but our space suits do have the same general shape; round head, two arms, two legs, etc.  And, we of course don't have biomechanical technology  :D  It could be a matter of form fitting function.  Our suits simply allow us to survive in a vacuum, where their suits, being partly organic and mechanical, are an extension of their body. 

    To me the object being scanned is flat across the bottom with a large opening so it could go over the top of a head, while the head in the newly leaked images actually extends down into a neck that would fit on an actors head.

    I figure if I speculate enough I'll have to get something right..  Maybe..
  30. Xenomorphine
    Yeah but I never said that a facehugger wouldn't have an issue impregnating an animal in similar size and appearance to a human, although it did leave scars all over the dogs face suggesting less complications when impregnating human beings. Maybe even something as big as an Ox. But come on man, I said elephant, And the ones I've seen are bigger than rottweilers...and ox's. And my main reason for using an elephant as an example was that they have a trunk, ala space jockey style. Ok, so maybe it's a suit and the hugger impregnated whatever was inside first but I never assumed this from watching ALIEN. I'm personally not too keen on the idea. But I was just saying that since the first time watching ALIEN many moons ago I have wondered how a facehugger can bypass a trunk and successfully impregnate a creature of that size and shape, unless the hugger was considerably bigger than the ones we've seen.

    Size is really no issue. :) Like I said, a trunk wouldn't matter - it'd either just get underneath it or clamp down and push the ovipositor around one side of it.

    so it is possible that the fossilized jockey in alien is a creature in suit with fossilized facehugger on it's face...no trunk, just facehuggers tail.

    That wouldn't explained why the original's alleged tail would have fused with the sternum and ribs. Or why it didn't simply scurry away when the job was done, like the one with Kane had done.

    Or why legs are missing... If it hasn't got any limbs and the tail isn't being used to wrap around the neck, how is it meant to stay on and not be dislodged?
  31. BioMechanical
    If the SJ's seeded earth, it would just make more sense that they look like us. We are obviously not from this planet. Seems a small group of us were stranded here long ago, from whence we came the knowledge was lost, or so it seems. There is no equilibrium with us and this planet.  If you look at our whole demeanor, in how we operate, we operate on this rock like the SJ's. We are extracting as much as we can from this place and are not putting anything back.  Soon it will be time for us to move to the next rock like before.

    After all, we are truly evil beings (SJ's). We only mask our evilness with religion and smiley glad hands, we all have hidden agendas. Deep down it's what I do for you, you do for me, mentality. I think this movie will show us what we will become if something doesn't change within us. But highly doubt we will deviate.

  32. Kol
    @ Mustangjeff:

    to me it doesn't make much sense that the alien inside the suit, looks exactly (or with a subtle change) like the suit.
    do astronauts look like a space suit, when taking it off?  :laugh:

    maybe the suit is deforming, after death. like the whole jockey ship, maybe...
  33. Mustangjeff
    There is no way that is a mask.  It would be just so, well....stupid!  Why would a being that has some futuristic looking biomechanical body suit put on something that looks like an organic/fleshy second skin as a face mask?  That would be like me all decked out in hockey gear putting on a couple of slices of mortadella on my head and calling it a face mask.   At least have something more technologicically advanced.  Seriously, why would you, as a being with a nose, a mouth, ears and eyes out on something that is just another version of a nose, a mouth....?  To what end?  How does he put it on, like those old wrestling masks the Killer Bees used to wear--tying it with strings at the back? ;) Just because Ridley says that the Space Jockey wears a suit, it doesn't mean that this head we see here has to be a mask, or that there will be no real alien presence in the film apart from a humanoid in disguise.  At the risk of being proven wrong, this, to me, is a legitimate being in its own right.

    I hope.

    Just to be clear, I'm not calling any speculations stupid.  I'm just saying if Ridley did this, to me, it would be pretty far fetched.  But I would wait to see the film first, of course!

    I think you misread it. They only said it's a prosthetic mask designed specifically for an actor to wear. Pretty much like any other Predator, River Ghost, etc... creature prosthetic masks. The SJ could be a suit as suggested in previous interviews. But it's neither confirmed, denied or suggested by these pictures. It could be anything.

    I think we have some confusion over the definition of a Space Jockey.

    Is the Space Jockey the Biomechanical suit as seen in the ampule room photos, or is the Space Jockey the alien creature that wears the suit, or is the space jockey the big blue bald guy in the trailer?

    Obviously the new images look very much like the image in the trailer of the head/helmet being scanned.  Same basic shape, but in my opinion the head object being scanned is too large for an actor to wear as a prosthetic creature mask.  I think it's the actual biomechanical helmet for the biomechanical suit laying in the ampule room.

    The new images are supposedly a prosthetic creature mask for an actor to wear who is portraying an alien creature (not the Xeno Alien).  I think this is the true face of the alien who wears the biomechanical suit.

    So...

    New head images + Actor = Alien species
    Helmet being scanned + torso and legs in ampule room = Biomechanical suit that above alien wears

    Big blue bald guy = something else..  The Engineer/God being who created humans and above alien species.

    My opinion of course.
  34. Snowdog
    I don't think it is a facehugger as we know it. The face hugger design could of been originaly thought up to supply oxygen to the wearer (but later used as a bio weapon delivery system. We all know the facehugger keeps the victim alive when its planting its seed. What if the space jockey suit is part facehugger in the sense its more of an oxygen feeding device to the wearer.

    You have the humanoid face with the attached "facehugger" (to provide oxygen) and then on top of that you have an outer skeleton for protection.

    Only problem I have with this pictures is, that they don´t show the quality of sculpt which would be usual for a multi million flick production.

    its prob a prototype testing the mold and casting methods

    Damn dude that is a pretty nice theory you got there :) Would be cool to see that. Also explains the Jockey from alien. Wrong facehugger strapped on ? :laugh: :laugh:
  35. nendo
    I don't think it is a facehugger as we know it. The face hugger design could of been originaly thought up to supply oxygen to the wearer (but later used as a bio weapon delivery system. We all know the facehugger keeps the victim alive when its planting its seed. What if the space jockey suit is part facehugger in the sense its more of an oxygen feeding device to the wearer.

    You have the humanoid face with the attached "facehugger" (to provide oxygen) and then on top of that you have an outer skeleton for protection.

    Only problem I have with this pictures is, that they don´t show the quality of sculpt which would be usual for a multi million flick production.

    its prob a prototype testing the mold and casting methods
  36. Infected
    I think the bald giant and the jockey are not the same beings.
    Probably enemy's the decapitated jockey doesnt make any sense i think the jockey's are the advanced race and the giant guy/race is after what they got.
  37. ikarop
    There is no way that is a mask.  It would be just so, well....stupid!  Why would a being that has some futuristic looking biomechanical body suit put on something that looks like an organic/fleshy second skin as a face mask?  That would be like me all decked out in hockey gear putting on a couple of slices of mortadella on my head and calling it a face mask.   At least have something more technologicically advanced.  Seriously, why would you, as a being with a nose, a mouth, ears and eyes out on something that is just another version of a nose, a mouth....?  To what end?  How does he put it on, like those old wrestling masks the Killer Bees used to wear--tying it with strings at the back? ;) Just because Ridley says that the Space Jockey wears a suit, it doesn't mean that this head we see here has to be a mask, or that there will be no real alien presence in the film apart from a humanoid in disguise.  At the risk of being proven wrong, this, to me, is a legitimate being in its own right.

    I hope.

    Just to be clear, I'm not calling any speculations stupid.  I'm just saying if Ridley did this, to me, it would be pretty far fetched.  But I would wait to see the film first, of course!

    I think you misread it. They only said it's a prosthetic mask designed specifically for an actor to wear. Pretty much like any other Predator, River Ghost, etc... creature prosthetic masks. The SJ could be a suit as suggested in previous interviews. But it's neither confirmed, denied or suggested by these pictures. It could be anything.
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