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  1. Glaive
    Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 30, 2011, 05:14:51 PM
    Looking again at the original SJ....I can't help but believe that the chair and the jockey are both somewhat organic, as if, as Dallas put it 'grown out of the chair' of sorts. The entire design and execution of the creature seems like it comes from a culture that's completely organic which includes their technology.

    Am I crazy?

    That's the whole POINT of Giger's 'Biomechanic' pics...the fusing of the organic and inorganic to a point where you can't tell where one stops and the other starts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUT0De4P_aU#

    When I first heard about this story I mentally christened the guy "Space Jockey".
  2. ThisBethesdaSea
    Looking again at the original SJ....I can't help but believe that the chair and the jockey are both somewhat organic, as if, as Dallas put it 'grown out of the chair' of sorts. The entire design and execution of the creature seems like it comes from a culture that's completely organic which includes their technology.

    Am I crazy?
  3. Highland
    Quote from: BonesawT101 on Sep 30, 2011, 09:54:49 AM
    over on imdb these pics have sparked a big debate with pretty much everyone coming to the conclusion that they are not from prometheus. yet no one has shown any proof that proves the pics aren't from the new movie.

    IMDB is the equivalent of a nagging wife. If you say black, they say white.

    If they are fake, someone deserves a medal. From memory the scale looked real to me. Although there was no reference in the pictures.

    The fact they have been removed also suggests they are at least causing a concern.

  4. BonesawT101
    over on imdb these pics have sparked a big debate with pretty much everyone coming to the conclusion that they are not from prometheus. yet no one has shown any proof that proves the pics aren't from the new movie.
  5. Glaive
    Quote from: Highland on Sep 29, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
    Quote from: NUB DESTROYER on Sep 29, 2011, 09:14:44 PM
    Or maybe those urns. They look like they can remain intact while they're being hurtled through space and time.

    That's what I meant.

    Because if I remember from the other set leaks, the chamber with the urns sit's directly below the head, which again looked like where the Jockey ship would sit.

    So going on my Penis theory......

    One set of eggs to start life.

    One set of eggs to destroy it.

    The SJs should of invested heavily in the 'Genesis Device'...they could of gotten a 'two-for'!
  6. Glaive
    I've got a full-colour picture looking down the split glans of the telecope/whatever...it has multiple holes between the two flayed flaps, I took it for multiple lenses for this alien 'telescope' for a time...

    The film,however, NEVER showed this aparatus from an angle we could SEE these holes...

    Perhaps, Ridley is happy he had an artist that could enlarge his vision between canvas and full-sized sculpture...and it is serendipitous that something Giger added to a model on a sound-stage might have sparked Prometheus.

    Ridley Scott (1978)..."I LOVE the Space Jockey...but it's going to be twice as expensive to build this telescope..."
    HR Giger..."But you muzt!...Ozerwise Jockey make NO sense!...and iz OBVIUZLY not TELESCOPE!..Iz PLANET INZEMINATOR!!!"


    ...I'm pretty sure THAT's the way it went down.
  7. Darwinsgirl
    Quote from: Kev Loaf on Sep 29, 2011, 04:38:11 PM
    Quote from: Glaive on Sep 29, 2011, 04:05:07 PM
    Quote from: Kev Loaf on Sep 29, 2011, 01:26:34 PM
    Quote from: Valaquen on Sep 29, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
    Quote from: Highland on Sep 29, 2011, 10:40:21 AM
    Just a thought, but what if it's not a telescope but some sort of cannon that launches the egg/cylinder shaped objects into new planets.

    Basically it fires a cocktail of life....
    So it's a giant dick?

    Not a far stretch, considering Alien.

    Wait what?! A giant dick?! What is it doing, pumping the seed of life constantly into the universe. I bloody hope this is not the case.

    Considering it was designed by Giger, I found it rather tame...though I find it difficult to rationalize that you've gone through life without realizing that the Space Jockey was actually staring up through a gigantic, erect, flayed penis...

    ...we won't talk about the split glans ('bell-end', for our younger viewers)

    HUH?! Has someone who actually made the film or designed the creature actually come out and said it was a "gigantic, erect, flayed penis"?!

    That is insane. Why can you guys not imagine it to be a telescope or a cannon, why does everything have to be turned into something erotic?!  :D

    Its Space Jockey envy ;)
  8. Glaive
    Quote from: The Xenoborg on Sep 29, 2011, 05:52:22 PM
    Quote from: Kev Loaf on Sep 29, 2011, 05:18:23 PM
    I always like to believe that the SJ was permanently fused to the chair and that it was some form of biomech pilot created by another, yet unseen, intelligent life form! Therefore, the SJ was a creation like the Xenos by some other mysterious race.

    That would be awesome. 
    I had something similar in mind. But I guess that the SJs surgically attached themselves to different stuff, in Alien's case, the ship. So there could be those normal Jockeys that could, well walk around, while some others could be half-machines, that are restricted to the vicinity of the thing they are connected to.

    Or they could attach and detach themselves from machines, whenever they wanted to.

    I'm not sure SJs were organisms created by other organisms. Xenomorphs could be, but SJs, being the advanced race they are, seem to have altered their bodies to their needs.

    Someone NEEDS to Photoshop a Space Jockey on a Segway, STAT!
  9. m138jewski
    so damn happy about this. Even if the tie in comes at the end, or whatever, it's gonna be there. this is a great time for alien fans!
  10. The Xenoborg
    Quote from: Kev Loaf on Sep 29, 2011, 05:18:23 PM
    I always like to believe that the SJ was permanently fused to the chair and that it was some form of biomech pilot created by another, yet unseen, intelligent life form! Therefore, the SJ was a creation like the Xenos by some other mysterious race.

    That would be awesome. 
    I had something similar in mind. But I guess that the SJs surgically attached themselves to different stuff, in Alien's case, the ship. So there could be those normal Jockeys that could, well walk around, while some others could be half-machines, that are restricted to the vicinity of the thing they are connected to.

    Or they could attach and detach themselves from machines, whenever they wanted to.

    I'm not sure SJs were organisms created by other organisms. Xenomorphs could be, but SJs, being the advanced race they are, seem to have altered their bodies to their needs.
  11. Glaive
    Quote from: Kev Loaf on Sep 29, 2011, 04:38:11 PM
    Quote from: Glaive on Sep 29, 2011, 04:05:07 PM
    Quote from: Kev Loaf on Sep 29, 2011, 01:26:34 PM
    Quote from: Valaquen on Sep 29, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
    Quote from: Highland on Sep 29, 2011, 10:40:21 AM
    Just a thought, but what if it's not a telescope but some sort of cannon that launches the egg/cylinder shaped objects into new planets.

    Basically it fires a cocktail of life....
    So it's a giant dick?

    Not a far stretch, considering Alien.

    Wait what?! A giant dick?! What is it doing, pumping the seed of life constantly into the universe. I bloody hope this is not the case.

    Considering it was designed by Giger, I found it rather tame...though I find it difficult to rationalize that you've gone through life without realizing that the Space Jockey was actually staring up through a gigantic, erect, flayed penis...

    ...we won't talk about the split glans ('bell-end', for our younger viewers)

    HUH?! Has someone who actually made the film or designed the creature actually come out and said it was a "gigantic, erect, flayed penis"?!

    That is insane. Why can you guys not imagine it to be a telescope or a cannon, why does everything have to be turned into something erotic?!  :D

    http://www.virginmedia.com/images/alien-5-rumours-space-jockeys-590x350.jpg

    I'm, sorry...It looks NOTHING like a phallus...

    Gah, I don't know what came over me...



    (...but it might of been a "gigantic, erect, flayed penis with split glans..." )
  12. Gash
    Even if this only appears in the last minute of the film it's enough to bring a tear to my eye. The beauty of Giger's aesthetic is back, matched with Ridley's artistic eye. Gone is the greasy brown turd of what the alien had become by A:R. This is fantastic.
  13. Kev Loaf
    I always like to believe that the SJ was permanently fused to the chair and that it was some form of biomech pilot created by another, yet unseen, intelligent life form! Therefore, the SJ was a creation like the Xenos by some other mysterious race.

    That would be awesome. 
  14. The Xenoborg
    About the missing pipes and features: The sculpture might be incomplete?  :-\

    I was going through the comments on the previous page and the language is pretty harsh  :laugh:

    If an Alien movie doesn't have indirect erotic references, it is not a worthy Alien movie.
    I hope Jockeys do not walk or run or move at all.  ;)
  15. Jenga
    from kev loaf: "Why can you guys not imagine it to be a telescope or a cannon, why does everything have to be turned into something erotic?!" ...because that's what it is. Look at all of Geiger's biomechanoid artwork and you will see constant thingly veiled allegories for genitals and intercourse. Nothing wrong with it. Why is that such a shock?

    Also it is clearly a space jockey chair without the jockey. Literally all of the sculpture details other than the missing pipes along the base of the gun/phallus and the Jockey itself match either exactly or as small redesigns that no one but people on this board would notice. Unless this thing was home made (which I highly doubt), it is the definite confirmation of a SJ built for the film.
  16. Kev Loaf
    Quote from: Glaive on Sep 29, 2011, 04:05:07 PM
    Quote from: Kev Loaf on Sep 29, 2011, 01:26:34 PM
    Quote from: Valaquen on Sep 29, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
    Quote from: Highland on Sep 29, 2011, 10:40:21 AM
    Just a thought, but what if it's not a telescope but some sort of cannon that launches the egg/cylinder shaped objects into new planets.

    Basically it fires a cocktail of life....
    So it's a giant dick?

    Not a far stretch, considering Alien.

    Wait what?! A giant dick?! What is it doing, pumping the seed of life constantly into the universe. I bloody hope this is not the case.

    Considering it was designed by Giger, I found it rather tame...though I find it difficult to rationalize that you've gone through life without realizing that the Space Jockey was actually staring up through a gigantic, erect, flayed penis...

    ...we won't talk about the split glans ('bell-end', for our younger viewers)

    HUH?! Has someone who actually made the film or designed the creature actually come out and said it was a "gigantic, erect, flayed penis"?!

    That is insane. Why can you guys not imagine it to be a telescope or a cannon, why does everything have to be turned into something erotic?!  :D
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