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Ridley Scott Talks Prometheus

Following on from the previous news report, Daily Mail also talked to Ridley Scott and he’s only gone and made things even more confusing:

“Prometheus, Ridley declared, was not — as some have suggested — a  prequel to his classic sci-fi shocker Alien. But he refused to divulge more.”

He also mentions production will start on Prometheus in 3 weeks and that he is really trying to keep the film in complete secrecy. “I was insistent that the script not leak onto the internet, where it gets dissected out of context, which spoils it for everyone.

In regards to an unspecified cast member the article said: “Indeed, one of his actors told me that he could recite the entire screenplay to me — but then he’d have to wrestle me to the ground and, this was related in the nicest possible way, ‘kill me.

Check out the Daily Mail website for more information. Scroll down to This sci-fi’s top secret and read on.



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  1. rycher
    I say until we know if its a def. Prequel or has anything to do with Alien at all.. it shouldnt be a topic on this site because its just stirring up confusion to Alien fans.. its a big back and forth game
  2. RoaryUK
    I dunno what all the fuss is about really, it'll probably be an Alien Prequel anyways, FOX just loves screwing with the fans y'know LMAO

    ...but of course, if it sucks balls, THAT'S the time to make a fuss!!
  3. Highland
    as far as I can see it's went it's went a bit like this.

    1) Space jockey's rock 
    2) but its not important to the plot of Alien
    3) they fleshed it out a bit though eh?
    4) but its not important to the plot of Alien
    5) We'd love to see them expand on the SJ in this new movie like
    6) but its not important to the plot of Alien
    7) Head implodes.
  4. RoaryUK
    I'm so confused... am off head hunting now for that Ridley Scott fella  ;D

    "I think it's fair to say our smoothly running facility has suddenly developed a few problems, I can only hope we can all pull together over the next few days ...or else start ripping each others heads off!"
  5. Highland
    I'd have to disagree. The Space jockey ship , however redundant to the plot of the story, is a massive part of what has made Alien so appealing to Sci Fi fans.

    "The Thing" is one of my all time favourite movie's , but I don't need to know anything more about the creature or where it came from because the film does not expand on these elements. It's a crashed ship with a bad guy on board.

    The Space Jockey injects wonder and imagination, questions without answers, the very core of Science Fiction.

    To say the Space jockey is "so unimportant" is well past the mark in my opinion.

    All that matters is the Alien Eggs, the novel and script are proof of that.  The Jockeys and Dererlict simply serve as a placement for the whole piece.  Even if they had been dropped, the Nostromo crew would still find the eggs because that is pivitol to the plot... dont you get it yet!!  lol

    If you would kindly point out the piece in my post where I state the the Space Jockey is essential to the plot of Alien in any way. Then... yes , I will "get it" 

    I think you are the one not "getting" it. It's quoted in the first bloody line of the post, did you skim over that bit?

    They did the sequel without the Jockey.

    And the ship even.

    It was still responsible for the outcome of the colony though. Being picky here.

    I think people are on different pages here. I'm trying to point out the Space Jockey is important to the Alien Saga as it stands now and holds a bit of weight. If people are going to be picky, you might as well pick any movie ever and say "but X wasn't critical to the plot". It's a moot point.
  6. RoaryUK
    I'd have to disagree. The Space jockey ship , however redundant to the plot of the story, is a massive part of what has made Alien so appealing to Sci Fi fans.

    "The Thing" is one of my all time favourite movie's , but I don't need to know anything more about the creature or where it came from because the film does not expand on these elements. It's a crashed ship with a bad guy on board.

    The Space Jockey injects wonder and imagination, questions without answers, the very core of Science Fiction.

    To say the Space jockey is "so unimportant" is well past the mark in my opinion.

    All that matters is the Alien Eggs, the novel and script are proof of that.  The Jockeys and Dererlict simply serve as a placement for the whole piece.  Even if they had been dropped, the Nostromo crew would still find the eggs because that is pivitol to the plot... dont you get it yet!!  lol
  7. Highland
    I didn’t say it was vital to the plot. Light Sabres aren't vital to the plot in Star Wars, nor Germans in Indian Jones. Would the movie have been any better or worse without it? Who knows?

    I think the folks are trying to say it is NOW an integral part of the saga. It's responsible for the sequel, and it churns out a hell of a lot of interest, otherwise we wouldn't be typing in the Prometheus thread which apparently has nought to do with Aliens. 

    It could be argued that the Space Jockey has caused more people to throw the toy's out the pram than the Alien has.



  8. SiL
    Aaand that its role in the finished picture is still even smaller than originally imagined (They didn't take the skull as proof).

    Seriously, the Jockey is about as crucial to the plot as the drinky birds on the table.
  9. SiL
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    It's not vital to the plot.  They could've gone onto the ship, come across the eggs, and the film changes not one iota.
    As illustrated by ADF and later script drafts.
  10. SM
    I'd have to disagree. The Space jockey ship , however redundant to the plot of the story, is a massive part of what has made Alien so appealing to Sci Fi fans.

    The Thing is one of my all time favourite movie's , but I don't need to know anything more about the creature or where it came from because the film does not expand on these elements. It's a crashed ship with a bad guy on board.

    The Space Jockey injects wonder and imagination, questions without answers, the very core of Science Fiction.

    To say the Space jockey is "so unimportant" is well past the mark in my opinion.

    Thus once again showing that opinions can be wrong.

    It's not vital to the plot.  They could've gone onto the ship, come across the eggs, and the film changes not one iota.  The Jockey isn't never even mentioned again for the rest of the film.

    The plot is to get them onto the planet in order to then get the Alien on to the Nostromo.  The Jockey adds texture, and I'm sure no one's trying to say it should've been cut, but it adds nothing plotwise.  As I said, it's a money shot.
  11. dandan
    Its on disc 6 if i remember correctly buddy, i didn't know about the space jockeys skull at the start of a v p 2 and i've got the blu ray of that, i also have the unrated us version which is slightly different to the uk uncut blu ray so im gonna take a look see if i can spot it. Scott can be a bit ambiguous at times about things, im happier he has taken this route with prometheus, iam looking forward to seeing the planet environment and the space jockey. Will be awesome revisiting the zeta 2 reticulii system too, i wonder if we'll see the jockeys ship fly? and if they will keep the derelict chase sequence from alien harvest but change some elements. Will we see space jockeys contacting humans and communicating with them? will be awesome
    ok  man thanks! ill watch disk 6 tonight then ! and yeah im also very interesting to see how the jockeys live and what weaponry they use if they are good or bad or are just on there own team just like the predators... also i am certain we just might see some jockeys ships in action this movie is going to be EPIC my freind! :D
  12. Highland
    I'd have to disagree. The Space jockey ship , however redundant to the plot of the story, is a massive part of what has made Alien so appealing to Sci Fi fans.

    "The Thing" is one of my all time favourite movie's , but I don't need to know anything more about the creature or where it came from because the film does not expand on these elements. It's a crashed ship with a bad guy on board.

    The Space Jockey injects wonder and imagination, questions without answers, the very core of Science Fiction.

    To say the Space jockey is "so unimportant" is well past the mark in my opinion.
  13. RoaryUK
    Actually, one only has to read the original novel by Alan Dean Foster to understand the importance of the Space Jockey at that time,
    Considering the Jockey doesn't appear in the novel, all ADF did was prove my point; it's so unimportant that its absence has zero effect on anything. Ever.

    That's what I meant lol.  Still, it would've been interesting to see how the S.J. played out in a prequel.  You're right it's not important, but I think it could be, you only have to look at how opinions have grown to see there is a story there.
  14. RoaryUK
    Actually, one only has to read the original novel by Alan Dean Foster to understand the importance of the Space Jockey at that time, what really made the creature legendary is boards like this one, fuelling speculation and offering one theory after another. Nothing wrong with that of course, I think the Jockeys are an important angle to the grand scheme of things, I would have liked an Alien Prequel just to know more about them so they really did become part of the mythos.  But as it stands, like a few things that were dropped by FOX during the making of Alien, it does seem likely Scott, rather than risk his reputation screwing things up as the father of Alien, would rather go the safe route and give us the best of both worlds otherwise known as a spin-off, where if it doesn't work it doesn't really matter anyway, AKA AvP.  I don't know about you guys, but considering I waited 30 plus years just to see Space Jockeys in an unrelated Alien film, I find that so disappointing and wonder why bother!
  15. SiL
    And another out of the theatrical version -- the stain over Kane's chest on the monitor.

    End of the day, cool as the Jockey was, it was in no way important to the plot.
  16. Deuterium
    Yes it was for budgetary concerns, but the fact remains, they could've just gone into the that chamber - or possibly a much smaller more budget friendly chamber - and found a hole in the floor, without ever encountering the Jockey and it wouldn't have really changed anything.

    Except for the fact that a central point of the Space Jockey scene is the discovery, by the crew, of the puzzling rupture in the creature's "chest".  This was a beautiful (and IMHO important) piece of foreshadowing.  And when done well, as it was in this movie, foreshadowing can help add that extra bit of layering and nuance...just one of the ingredients that can elevate a good movie into a great movie.
  17. SM
    the space jockey in the first part is a massive part of the story.
    It's entirely disposable to the plot. To the point where it was disposed of by the producers, except Ridley had them build it anyway. The jockey, the derelict and the signal, while all cool and creepy, are little more than a macguffin to get to the core of the movie -- brain-sucking monster funtimes.

    From my understanding the only reason they wanted to remove it was was due to budget and that was more fox trying to have control over the project.

    Yes it was for budgetary concerns, but the fact remains, they could've just gone into the that chamber - or possibly a much smaller more budget friendly chamber - and found a hole in the floor, without ever encountering the Jockey and it wouldn't have really changed anything.
  18. Wobblyboddle77
    Its on disc 6 if i remember correctly buddy, i didn't know about the space jockeys skull at the start of a v p 2 and i've got the blu ray of that, i also have the unrated us version which is slightly different to the uk uncut blu ray so im gonna take a look see if i can spot it. Scott can be a bit ambiguous at times about things, im happier he has taken this route with prometheus, iam looking forward to seeing the planet environment and the space jockey. Will be awesome revisiting the zeta 2 reticulii system too, i wonder if we'll see the jockeys ship fly? and if they will keep the derelict chase sequence from alien harvest but change some elements. Will we see space jockeys contacting humans and communicating with them? will be awesome
  19. dandan
    Maybe the jockeys cockpit where it is sat looking through some sort of telescope or navigation equipment in alien is actually linked to the "head " of the ship, it could be completely biomechanical all in one so to say, thats assuming the giant head is to do with the jockey and not the human side of the plot, it would seem more technologically feasible then, i still think the jockey we see in prometheus will be a different one from what we see in alien, that way scott dosent destroy the ambiguity and mystery too much surrounding it, and it remains shrouded still in partial mystery.
    the telescope could have also been looking at the nostromo as well ? did you ever seen the directors cut of alien where they get some kind of Alien message? could be something to do with that.



    Yes dandan buddy, ive got the blu ray, it's great , the signal is quite haunting i found, it will be interesting to see what a live space jockey will look like in prometheus, whether it actually gets out've the seat and moves around, or is in a "suit" as scott previously stated and kind of gets out've the navigators seat via the suit. i hope it's a creature grown into the seat. I think prometheus will be visually encaptivating, original and profoundly disturbing that will haunt the viewer. I really hope scott has got the uk 18 rating and the american R rating hes been asking for so it really pushes the boundaries, for me pg13/12a would hinder the film. Oh and if u look at the blu ray 6th dvd disc theres quite a fair bit of extra derelict deleted footage atleast 5 to 6 mins worth, you can see the jockey in the backround in one or two shots , worth looking at its not on the quadrilogy at all. blu ray exclusive.
    Yeah i have the Blue ray set aswell its Awesome which disk is it with the derelict spaceship i havent had time to watch them all ? and specially that letter in the booklet from Scott him self it got us all hyped for a prequel but now no one knows whats going on lol.. any way about the space jockey, i think it might be just a being its self ino know Scott said its a being in its suit but he said that when he announced the prequel so he could be lying to us or not wanting to go down that road.. who knows and i think it is a being because if you have watched and AVP 2 it shows  the space jockeys Skull at the begging if you look really close to the trophy room interesting stuff.
  20. nendo
    the space jockey in the first part is a massive part of the story.
    It's entirely disposable to the plot. To the point where it was disposed of by the producers, except Ridley had them build it anyway. The jockey, the derelict and the signal, while all cool and creepy, are little more than a macguffin to get to the core of the movie -- brain-sucking monster funtimes.

    From my understanding the only reason they wanted to remove it was was due to budget and that was more fox trying to have control over the project.
  21. SiL
    the space jockey in the first part is a massive part of the story.
    It's entirely disposable to the plot. To the point where it was disposed of by the producers, except Ridley had them build it anyway. The jockey, the derelict and the signal, while all cool and creepy, are little more than a macguffin to get to the core of the movie -- brain-sucking monster funtimes.
  22. Wobblyboddle77
    Maybe the jockeys cockpit where it is sat looking through some sort of telescope or navigation equipment in alien is actually linked to the "head " of the ship, it could be completely biomechanical all in one so to say, thats assuming the giant head is to do with the jockey and not the human side of the plot, it would seem more technologically feasible then, i still think the jockey we see in prometheus will be a different one from what we see in alien, that way scott dosent destroy the ambiguity and mystery too much surrounding it, and it remains shrouded still in partial mystery.
    the telescope could have also been looking at the nostromo as well ? did you ever seen the directors cut of alien where they get some kind of Alien message? could be something to do with that.

    Yes dandan buddy, ive got the blu ray, it's great , the signal is quite haunting i found, it will be interesting to see what a live space jockey will look like in prometheus, whether it actually gets out've the seat and moves around, or is in a "suit" as scott previously stated and kind of gets out've the navigators seat via the suit. i hope it's a creature grown into the seat. I think prometheus will be visually encaptivating, original and profoundly disturbing that will haunt the viewer. I really hope scott has got the uk 18 rating and the american R rating hes been asking for so it really pushes the boundaries, for me pg13/12a would hinder the film. Oh and if u look at the blu ray 6th dvd disc theres quite a fair bit of extra derelict deleted footage atleast 5 to 6 mins worth, you can see the jockey in the backround in one or two shots , worth looking at its not on the quadrilogy at all. blu ray exclusive.
  23. Bio Mech Hunter
    Predator 2 has a xenomorph skull in it but we don't call it an Alien film because its part of the Predator franchise.  Alien has a space jockey corpse in the film even though the film is clearly not about space jockeys.

    With that logic, you can't call Prometheus an Alien film just because there is a dead space jockey in the movie.  If it's about jockeys, then its also the beginning of a new franchise and/or stand-alone film.

    There is your logic right there.

    Erm Not realy. the space jockey in the first part is a massive part of the story. Just because it doesn't feature in it that long doesn't mean its not important to the plot of the story.
    Quite true. Plot points and cameos shouldn't be confused.
  24. dandan
    Maybe the jockeys cockpit where it is sat looking through some sort of telescope or navigation equipment in alien is actually linked to the "head " of the ship, it could be completely biomechanical all in one so to say, thats assuming the giant head is to do with the jockey and not the human side of the plot, it would seem more technologically feasible then, i still think the jockey we see in prometheus will be a different one from what we see in alien, that way scott dosent destroy the ambiguity and mystery too much surrounding it, and it remains shrouded still in partial mystery.
    the telescope could have also been looking at the nostromo as well ? did you ever seen the directors cut of alien where they get some kind of Alien message? could be something to do with that.
  25. Wobblyboddle77
    Maybe the jockeys cockpit where it is sat looking through some sort of telescope or navigation equipment in alien is actually linked to the "head " of the ship, it could be completely biomechanical all in one so to say, thats assuming the giant head is to do with the jockey and not the human side of the plot, it would seem more technologically feasible then, i still think the jockey we see in prometheus will be a different one from what we see in alien, that way scott dosent destroy the ambiguity and mystery too much surrounding it, and it remains shrouded still in partial mystery.
  26. nendo
    Predator 2 has a xenomorph skull in it but we don't call it an Alien film because its part of the Predator franchise.  Alien has a space jockey corpse in the film even though the film is clearly not about space jockeys.

    With that logic, you can't call Prometheus an Alien film just because there is a dead space jockey in the movie.  If it's about jockeys, then its also the beginning of a new franchise and/or stand-alone film.

    There is your logic right there.

    Erm Not realy. the space jockey in the first part is a massive part of the story. Just because it doesn't feature in it that long doesn't mean its not important to the plot of the story.
  27. Highland
    Predator 2 has a xenomorph skull in it but we don't call it an Alien film because its part of the Predator franchise.  Alien has a space jockey corpse in the film even though the film is clearly not about space jockeys.

    With that logic, you can't call Prometheus an Alien film just because there is a dead space jockey in the movie.  If it's about jockeys, then its also the beginning of a new franchise and/or stand-alone film.

    There is your logic right there.

    No ones calling it an Alien film. It clearly is not. It apparently has links to the franchise of which we are fans and may provide back story's. That's enough for me to be interested.

    The pilots ship was responsible for 2 full length tales about the Alien. I'd say it holds a little more weight than "dead stuff was in it"
  28. Ash 937
    Predator 2 has a xenomorph skull in it but we don't call it an Alien film because its part of the Predator franchise.  Alien has a space jockey corpse in the film even though the film is clearly not about space jockeys.

    With that logic, you can't call Prometheus an Alien film just because there is a dead space jockey in the movie.  If it's about jockeys, then its also the beginning of a new franchise and/or stand-alone film.

    There is your logic right there.

  29. Highland
    my bet is that the jockey could be the 'engineer 1' character we've heard mentioned before.
    so perhaps the jockey's are actually known as 'engineers'. I could be way off though :laugh:

    I've been trying to link the giant "head pilot" to the jockey, since it was commonly referred to as "the Pilot" .

    Not come up with much yet, other than the giant telescopic piece attached to the chair may or may not be something to do with it. All very interesting.

    I actually enjoy this part more than the reveal.
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