Bleeding Cool has posted up an interesting article after having talked to their own source:
“Remember how the alien took on canine qualities after gestating in a dog? You may even suppose that the first film’s alien was so recognisably humanoid because it had grown in a human. The same applies here: generation by generation, the creature mutates. As Prometheus begins, the xenomorph is not too recognisable. Sure, it has that alien DNA that Scott and Fassbender teasingly referred to, but it’s missing… well, it’s missing human DNA. Or dog DNA.
All you have to do is imagine how it might look if it were to mix DNA with another alien species… and I think we’re starting to work it all out.
I learned that the film’s setting is, in part, a planet that has been terraformed to create the perfect environment in which a particular bioweapon would prosper. Terraformed deliberately to farm the weapon? I got no clear answer. Is this bioweapon the alien? I got no clear answer. While there was a lot of wheezing and coughing on my end of the phone, there was a good deal of quiet smirking on the other, it seems.”
Sounds pretty interesting to me. Certainly adds up considering Ridley’s comments about “redesigning” the Alien. Thanks to Shasvre.
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i'd almost imagine it might have to be in a Lindelof script
Thanks. That's very intriguing. I wonder if he is talking about Time Travel with the Back to the Future reference because the character Elizabeth Shaw in Doctor Who was an assistant to a time traveller.
Here's the actual link to the interview: http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589
Sehr lange bevor. Scott orientiert sich an Erich von Däniken: «Der hat richtig geraten. Vor Millionen von Jahren hat es hier und woanders höherstehende Geschöpfe gegeben». Es ist eine Zeit, in der HR Gigers All-Monster noch nicht existiert. «Ich muss etwas Neues erschaffen.»
translation -
72 he is. No age to give up big plans. The biggest: Alien, Part 5 "I am working on it. . It will go fast "After Hollywood era that means: The movie will come out in two years. The plot? A kind of "Back to the Future." Long before Sigourney Weaver was taking on board their space ship with the alien. Very long before. Scott is based on Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures. " It is a time when HR Giger's do not all monsters. "I have to create something new."
the interview is from blick.ch
like this big?
I suppose I've been calling it the Prequalien. This kind of a naming is terrible I admit, but I suppose I've been using the predalien term since AVP:R
I think you're right on the money here.
I'm interested in the "grand mythology and universe" quote. As a huge fan of both "mythology" and "universe" I think these two go hand-in-hand. It'll be interesting to see where Ridley goes with that.
Investigating the Jockey ruins sounds like it could be an incredible part of the film, if you're right. I can't wait for this film to start shooting, and we get some set photos.
Citizen Kane vs. Rambo.
Alien was rife with imagery both sexual and otherworldly. It's perfectly reasonable to say that it was multifaceted and had depth. 'Cause that's true.
Predator doesn't really match up on those grounds. It does have symbolism and depth, but not to the degree that Alien does. But it was never designed to be that way. Predator was meant to start as a schlocky 80s action flick and end up as a horror story. It did that and did it well, no doubt.
Alien, in the same way, was designed to hit you right in the nads of your subconscious. It did that and did that well, which entailed greater depth and symbolism. That doesn't make Predator bad, or even objectively worse. It does make it significantly different, though. Different enough that, upon reflection, paring the Alien and the Predator seems to be really f**king bizarre.
I hate false symbolism.
Sorrry bud had to stop by after reading this. No doubt about it old Ridles is a master of his class, but even the master doesn't always get it right... and clearly you haven't seen Robin Hood yet. If Prometheus turns out anything like this mess these boards will tell a different story I guarentee it.
There isn't a comparison. The alien is a 'perfect organism' and the original story wasn't about an evil space monster, rather, it was about the survival of both species. Why there is no comparison for me is because the predator was birthed as a giant action monster in a giant action picture. That's in no way a bad thing, but at the same time, its the difference between high science fiction and low science fiction.
Crossing the two was like Putting a tomato and an apple on a burger. Both are fruit, but not comparable.
sounds like the Derelict to me...
I enjoyed this very much. Thank you.
Of course any comparison of the alien to a predator is out of reasonable discussion. It is simply opinion to say one is better than the other. To me the idea of Alien transcends that of any other movie monster. The xenomorph is not just a monster, it is an idea, a theme, something which goes beyond a simple animal. The magic of alien to me is that it is nature and machine birthed into one form. It represents the perfection and precision of a machine fused with the mystery and adaptability of a biological entity. The idea was far ahead of it's time, bioengineering and inorganic incorporation into natural substances. As a species, we are unwrapping the ability to do what these space jockeys did in this movie. Bioremediation, phage therapy, biological introduction, transduction, genetic engineering, we are harnessing these things today to control our surroundings. The actions of the jockeys are a mirror into our own reflection in the future. The physical form of the alien is of little conscequence when you stop and think about what the alien is. Sure it's really neat and fun to watch on a screen but there is a larger message in the idea. You have to be careful about what you create and must be able to control it or things can go wrong.
Personally I'm glad the facts are being skewed and contradicted because it gives an air of mystery. You don't know what's going to happen or appear . The alien is like space itself; dark, mysterious, beautiful, but potentially terrifying beyond imagination. All of this because we simply don't know what's out there.
He posted he'd seen some Prommy sets going up before so I asked him if he'd seen anything new.
lol sended... anyway.
but thats not true. Thats not true at all. Humans may of met the space jockies before. But whos to say it was a select few human or they even survived the encounter?
ur under the impression that if one person has met the space jockey then all of the human race will instantly know of their existance
My tought on the plot of the movie:
If i remember correctly , in Alien the spacejockey sended a waring message to others of the treath that was on the planet.
I don't know if that message was for there own race or evrey one, but if it was for evrey one then they arent in war with the humans.
Plus if the humans had meet the spacejockey before, they woud not be suprise by the jockey wen they saw it in the ship.
So basically if the common host is human, the queen lays eggs that hatch facehuggers that are designed best for impregnating a human or at least something of similar size. But that might even go back as far as to say that every genetic line of xenomorphs differs due to the original host..... Which we know, so that would make it impossible for there to be a "pure" form, unless the xenos are in fact "manufactured."
He said Aliens was a good action film but it wasn't the route he would have taken.
This does kind of sound like what fassbender may have been alluding to, I think.
However I am quite confident that the movie will certainly be part of the same universe. I like the sound of the bleeding cool 'leak' and can honestly see the film taking that route. however at this point no one other that the folks involved with the movie knows 100% whether it is connected or not.
At the end of the day there is no real way of knowing for sure untill Scott says it's connected (which I highly doubt will happen) or untill a trailer is released (which, again probably won't give too much away
With filming supposedly starting in three weeks a teaser could be on the horizon in maybe about two months time
This very recent info all points to the idea that Promethues may not be a prequel but probably will contain the aliens and the jockeys - therefore it will take part in the same universe for sure. It MAY be set before Alien, but probably won't end with the jockey travelling off to LV-426 or anything like that, or PERHAPS it will be set some other time, maybe even after alien, or at the same time? who knows? and is it really important? as long as it's set in the same universe and involves the Giger Alien species in it then I'm a happy man.
Ridley Scott talks Prometheus. Heavily guarding the script: http://bit.ly/hdqqQ8
"filming starts in three weeks at Pinewood Studios"
^^^^^
thats good to know! glad to here they are getting cracking on with it !
DamonLindelof Damon Lindelof
PROMETHEUS mission 4b: Somehow talk Mr. Elba into reenacting prison conversations with him as Stringer and me as Avon. http://bit.ly/hzkABn
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@alienpreqnews Michael Fassbender spills a few beans on Ridley Scott's 'Alien er,Prometheus'EXCLUSIVE: The Nerdverse ha http://bit.ly/fJ2Apz
^^^^^^^^^^
"Prometheus isn't an Alien prequel is just a classic bit of misdirection. As an Alien fan, I for one would plotz if a year from now Scott held a news conference saying, 'I lied, it is an Alien prequel!' That's a marketing campaign money can't buy. And I'm still not convinced this isn't what's going on here."
( LIke Alien when 1ST released. 0 WE live in hope!
Finally the franchise becomes serious......
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Actually, when i was a kid, i thought the xenomorph was a spider-like creature with many legs and arms...
Bri
Ridley Scott talks Prometheus. Heavily guarding the script: http://bit.ly/hdqqQ8
"filming starts in three weeks at Pinewood Studios"
^^^^^
thats good to know! glad to here they are getting cracking on with it !
DamonLindelof Damon Lindelof
PROMETHEUS mission 4b: Somehow talk Mr. Elba into reenacting prison conversations with him as Stringer and me as Avon. http://bit.ly/hzkABn
http://twitter.com/#!/DamonLindelof
@alienpreqnews Michael Fassbender spills a few beans on Ridley Scott's 'Alien er,Prometheus'EXCLUSIVE: The Nerdverse ha http://bit.ly/fJ2Apz