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“Pure” Aliens in Prometheus?

Bleeding Cool has posted up an interesting article after having talked to their own source:

“Remember how the alien took on canine qualities after gestating in a dog? You may even suppose that the first film’s alien was so recognisably humanoid because it had grown in a human. The same applies here: generation by generation, the creature mutates. As Prometheus begins, the xenomorph is not too recognisable. Sure, it has that alien DNA that Scott and Fassbender teasingly referred to, but it’s missing… well, it’s missing human DNA. Or dog DNA.

All you have to do is imagine how it might look if it were to mix DNA with another alien species… and I think we’re starting to work it all out.

I learned that the film’s setting is, in part, a planet that has been terraformed to create the perfect environment in which a particular bioweapon would prosper. Terraformed deliberately to farm the weapon? I got no clear answer. Is this bioweapon the alien? I got no clear answer. While there was a lot of wheezing and coughing on my end of the phone, there was a good deal of quiet smirking on the other, it seems.”

Sounds pretty interesting to me. Certainly adds up considering Ridley’s comments about “redesigning” the Alien. Thanks to Shasvre.



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  1. DJ Pu$$yface

    translation -

    72 he is. No age to give up big plans. The biggest: Alien, Part 5 "I am working on it. . It will go fast "After Hollywood era that means: The movie will come out in two years. The plot? A kind of "Back to the Future." Long before Sigourney Weaver was taking on board their space ship with the alien. Very long before. Scott is based on Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures. " It is a time when HR Giger's do not all monsters. "I have to create something new."

    the interview is from blick.ch"

    Thanks. That's very intriguing. I wonder if he is talking about Time Travel with the Back to the Future reference because the character Elizabeth Shaw in Doctor Who was an assistant to a time traveller.

    Here's the actual link to the interview: http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589

    http://members.wap.org/kevin.parker/chp/liz.jpg
  2. wmmvrrvrrmm

    translation -

    72 he is. No age to give up big plans. The biggest: Alien, Part 5 "I am working on it. . It will go fast "After Hollywood era that means: The movie will come out in two years. The plot? A kind of "Back to the Future." Long before Sigourney Weaver was taking on board their space ship with the alien. Very long before. Scott is based on Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures. " It is a time when HR Giger's do not all monsters. "I have to create something new."

    the interview is from blick.ch"

    Thanks. That's very intriguing. I wonder if he is talking about Time Travel with the Back to the Future reference because the character Elizabeth Shaw in Doctor Who was an assistant to a time traveller.

    Here's the actual link to the interview: http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589
  3. BonesawT101
    Was looking around the web and found this interesting article (12.05.2010) with an interview with Ridley Scott about Robin Hood where he is asked about his his next project (Prometheus) - 72 ist er. Kein Alter, um auf grosse Pläne zu verzichten. Der grösste: Alien, Teil 5. «Ich arbeite dran. Es wird schnell gehen.» Nach Hollywood-Zeitrechnung heisst das: Der Film wird in zwei Jahren rauskommen. Die Handlung? Eine Art «Zurück in die Zukunft». Lange bevor Sigourney Weaver es an Bord ihres Raumschiffs mit dem Alien aufnahm.

    Sehr lange bevor. Scott orientiert sich an Erich von Däniken: «Der hat richtig geraten. Vor Millionen von Jahren hat es hier und woanders höherstehende Geschöpfe gegeben». Es ist eine Zeit, in der HR Gigers All-Monster noch nicht existiert. «Ich muss etwas Neues erschaffen.»

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    72 he is. No age to give up big plans. The biggest: Alien, Part 5 "I am working on it. . It will go fast "After Hollywood era that means: The movie will come out in two years. The plot? A kind of "Back to the Future." Long before Sigourney Weaver was taking on board their space ship with the alien. Very long before. Scott is based on Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures. " It is a time when HR Giger's do not all monsters. "I have to create something new."

    the interview is from blick.ch
  4. Kimarhi
    Pretty much the same, except nobody was sent with the ship to Erix in Shadow 19.  Perhaps it has been modified into an Alien script?  Keeps getting mentioned.  Shadow 19 was also optioned off to one of the studio's before the Harvest script was leaked.

  5. Darkoo
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    a few tidbits have leaked, namely that the plot centers on the flight crew of the “Prometheus,” a massive spaceship commissioned by one of the remaining superpowers on Earth.  That group includes Girl with the Dragon Tattoo star Noomi Rapace as Elizabeth Shaw, Charlize Theron as Vickers, and Michael Fassbender as (potentially) an android named David.

    Their mission is to venture to the planet of Erix and prepare natural resources through a process called “terraforming,” which makes the surface livable for humans.  There, the crew encounters the xenomorphs, the alien creatures that have become iconic throughout the four installments of the franchise.
    http://www.newsinfilm.com/2011/03/07/cast-updates-on-ridley-scotts-prometheus/
  6. Michael Harper
    If I had to guess I'd say it was the jockey's trying to terraform, and the aliens they used to achieve such an end turned on them.  Then the human crew sets down, investigates jockey ruins, understands how to terraform, then gets attacked by the prealien.

    I think you're right on the money here.

    I'm interested in the "grand mythology and universe" quote. As a huge fan of both "mythology" and "universe" I think these two go hand-in-hand. It'll be interesting to see where Ridley goes with that.

    Investigating the Jockey ruins sounds like it could be an incredible part of the film, if you're right. I can't wait for this film to start shooting, and we get some set photos.
  7. Kimarhi
    If I had to guess I'd say it was the jockey's trying to terraform, and the aliens they used to achieve such an end turned on them.  Then the human crew sets down, investigates jockey ruins, understands how to terraform, then gets attacked by the prealien.
  8. Mus
    Well hey, it's not like all Coca Cola employees know the secret recipe. Also, if I was some military type leader who manages to let loose a disease I've been working on, I'd deny everything and just try to contain it.
  9. Michael Harper
    Sounds awesome to me, but, I hope that this doesn't lead to a huge plothole. If humans terraformed a planet, in order for a bioweapon to be developed, and that bioweapon turns out to be the Xenomorph, then, it'll make you wonder why everybody was so "unfamilar" with it the previous films. Not that they can't work around that, and make it work well -- but then it'd just feel like they were just making something random up to connect the dots (like the completely random "Have the protocol droid mind erased" in Star Wars Episode III). Hopefully Damon Lindelof has avoided any plotholes when writing the screenplay. Being a huge fan of his, I think I'll keep my trust in him.
  10. MadassAlex
    What false symbolism?

    Alien was rife with imagery both sexual and otherworldly. It's perfectly reasonable to say that it was multifaceted and had depth. 'Cause that's true.

    Predator doesn't really match up on those grounds. It does have symbolism and depth, but not to the degree that Alien does. But it was never designed to be that way. Predator was meant to start as a schlocky 80s action flick and end up as a horror story. It did that and did it well, no doubt.

    Alien, in the same way, was designed to hit you right in the nads of your subconscious. It did that and did that well, which entailed greater depth and symbolism. That doesn't make Predator bad, or even objectively worse. It does make it significantly different, though. Different enough that, upon reflection, paring the Alien and the Predator seems to be really f**king bizarre.
  11. Sylizar
    Nail on the head Koshmar...

    There isn't a comparison. The alien is a 'perfect organism' and the original story wasn't about an evil space monster, rather, it was about the survival of both species. Why there is no comparison for me is because the predator was birthed as a giant action monster in a giant action picture. That's in no way a bad thing, but at the same time, its the difference between high science fiction and low science fiction.

    Crossing the two was like Putting a tomato and an apple on a burger. Both are fruit, but not comparable.

    I hate false symbolism.
  12. RoaryUK
    I do trust Sky and bleeding cools leaked pieces of news, but it would be so much more reassuring to hear it from scott. Fassbender's words are echoed by Giger aswell in the Blick newspaper interview where it says 'he does however confirm that Promotheus will take part in the same universe as the Alien series.' I suppose we can trust Giger and Fassbender. Giger never mentioned prequel. I honestly think the film could very well be set before Alien but just not tell a traditional prequel story (like star wars eps1-3) but focus on its own story (while still involving some form of the familiar giger alien species and the jockey)
    This does kind of sound like what fassbender may have been alluding to, I think.
    yeah so basically its a spin off set before Alien if its all true what i think it is anyway :) any way any film directed by Scott is a masterpiece so im sure this will be epic! and im really looking forward to see how the jockeys live how the act  to see if they are good or bad beings or they just like the predators on there own side.

    Sorrry bud had to stop by after reading this. No doubt about it old Ridles is a master of his class, but even the master doesn't always get it right... and clearly you haven't seen Robin Hood yet.  If Prometheus turns out anything like this mess these boards will tell a different story I guarentee it. 
  13. ThisBethesdaSea
    Nail on the head Koshmar...

    There isn't a comparison. The alien is a 'perfect organism' and the original story wasn't about an evil space monster, rather, it was about the survival of both species. Why there is no comparison for me is because the predator was birthed as a giant action monster in a giant action picture. That's in no way a bad thing, but at the same time, its the difference between high science fiction and low science fiction.

    Crossing the two was like Putting a tomato and an apple on a burger. Both are fruit, but not comparable.
  14. Koshmar
    The world runs on this: (Alien > Predator= true). It is a fact proven by scientists, and corroborated by tons of evidence ranging from Dinosaur fossils, to geological composition studies.

    I enjoyed this very much. Thank you.

    Of course any comparison of the alien to a predator is out of reasonable discussion. It is simply opinion to say one is better than the other. To me the idea of Alien transcends that of any other movie monster. The xenomorph is not just a monster, it is an idea, a theme, something which goes beyond a simple animal. The magic of alien to me is that it is nature and machine birthed into one form. It represents the perfection and precision of a machine fused with the mystery and adaptability of a biological entity. The idea was far ahead of it's time, bioengineering and inorganic incorporation into natural substances. As a species, we are unwrapping the ability to do what these space jockeys did in this movie. Bioremediation, phage therapy, biological introduction, transduction, genetic engineering, we are harnessing these things today to control our surroundings. The actions of the jockeys are a mirror into our own reflection in the future. The physical form of the alien is  of little conscequence when you stop and think about what the alien is. Sure it's really neat and fun to watch on a screen but there is a larger message in the idea. You have to be careful about what you create and must be able to control it or things can go wrong.

    Personally I'm glad the facts are being skewed and contradicted because it gives an air of mystery. You don't know what's going to happen or appear . The alien is like space itself; dark, mysterious, beautiful, but potentially terrifying beyond imagination. All of this because we simply don't know what's out there.

  15. Corporal Hicks
    Another bit from Twitter:

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    CineQ Quentin Brown
    @_CorporalHicks Different style of ship in there, more rounded & organic, less rectangular. Navigator style alien ship?

    He posted he'd seen some Prommy sets going up before so I asked him if he'd seen anything new.
  16. nendo
    Frist of all great post Federick Gonsa , you made me laught so hard.

    My tought on the plot of the movie:
    If i remember correctly , in Alien the spacejockey sended a waring message to others of the treath that was on the planet.
    I don't know if that message was for there own race or evrey one, but if it was for evrey one then they arent in war with the humans.
    Plus if the humans had meet the spacejockey before, they woud not be suprise by the jockey wen they saw it in the ship.

    lol sended... anyway.

    but thats not true. Thats not true at all. Humans may of met the space jockies before. But whos to say it was a select few human or they even survived the encounter?

    ur under the impression that if one person has met the space jockey then all of the human race will instantly know of their existance
  17. Z
    Frist of all great post Federick Gonsa , you made me laught so hard.

    My tought on the plot of the movie:
    If i remember correctly , in Alien the spacejockey sended a waring message to others of the treath that was on the planet.
    I don't know if that message was for there own race or evrey one, but if it was for evrey one then they arent in war with the humans.
    Plus if the humans had meet the spacejockey before, they woud not be suprise by the jockey wen they saw it in the ship.

  18. Foundationman2
    Disregarding AVP Requiem, from what we've seen, the queen looks the same regardless of host. Unless of course the queen is birthed and develops adaptively to the type of prey in the vicinity. Perhaps, depending on the xeno locality, even the facehuggers are different to make it easier for implantation on the prey that is most common. It would take a fairly decent sized facehugger to implant an embryo into a jockey I would imagine.

    So basically if the common host is human, the queen lays eggs that hatch facehuggers that are designed best for impregnating a human or at least something of similar size. But that might even go back as far as to say that every genetic line of xenomorphs differs due to the original host..... Which we know, so that would make it impossible for there to be a "pure" form, unless the xenos are in fact "manufactured."
  19. Gash
    ....Why am I getting the odd feeling that Ridley didn't agree with Cameron's version of the reproduction method? Does anyone know what Ridley's thoughts are on that?

    He really liked the Queen, and was a fan of the rest of Aliens. Not going to bother digging out a quote for you right now, try hitting up Valaquen's blog.

    He said Aliens was a good action film but it wasn't the route he would have taken.
  20. dandan
    I do trust Sky and bleeding cools leaked pieces of news, but it would be so much more reassuring to hear it from scott. Fassbender's words are echoed by Giger aswell in the Blick newspaper interview where it says 'he does however confirm that Promotheus will take part in the same universe as the Alien series.' I suppose we can trust Giger and Fassbender. Giger never mentioned prequel. I honestly think the film could very well be set before Alien but just not tell a traditional prequel story (like star wars eps1-3) but focus on its own story (while still involving some form of the familiar giger alien species and the jockey)
    This does kind of sound like what fassbender may have been alluding to, I think.
    yeah so basically its a spin off set before Alien if its all true what i think it is anyway :) any way any film directed by Scott is a masterpiece so im sure this will be epic! and im really looking forward to see how the jockeys live how the act  to see if they are good or bad beings or they just like the predators on there own side.
  21. BonesawT101
    I do trust Sky and bleeding cools leaked pieces of news, but it would be so much more reassuring to hear it from scott. Fassbender's words are echoed by Giger aswell in the Blick newspaper interview where it says 'he does however confirm that Promotheus will take part in the same universe as the Alien series.' I suppose we can trust Giger and Fassbender. Giger never mentioned prequel. I honestly think the film could very well be set before Alien but just not tell a traditional prequel story (like star wars eps1-3) but focus on its own story (while still involving some form of the familiar giger alien species and the jockey)
    This does kind of sound like what fassbender may have been alluding to, I think.
  22. dandan
    yeah we might even get a teaser soon! be great if we get one i dnt fancy waiting that long for a trailer like near the end of the year or w.e  and bout skys sources they are always trust worthy because most of the things they say is true so i believe there is going to be jockeys and  also believe that they said the Aliens could be "big" because that has come from other sources aswell like they are saying the xenomorphs are "pure" so they are different.
  23. BonesawT101
    I feel the same, there is an awful lot of news 'leaking' from various different sources like for example sky and bleeding cool.
    However I am quite confident that the movie will certainly be part of the same universe. I like the sound of the bleeding cool 'leak' and can honestly see the film taking that route. however at this point no one other that the folks involved with the movie knows 100% whether it is connected or not.

    At the end of the day there is no real way of knowing for sure untill Scott says it's connected (which I highly doubt will happen) or untill a trailer is released (which, again probably won't give too much away  :laugh: )

    With filming supposedly starting in three weeks a teaser could be on the horizon in maybe about two months time
  24. dandan
    So far Fassbender and Giger have confirmed that firstly ther is "a definite connecting vein" to the alien universe and Giger has also confirmed that prometheus does take part in the same universe as the Alien series. Then the bleeding cool leak went further to claim the alien aliens will be in it, but we may not recognise them, at least,not at first before going on to claim that prometheus does indeed take part in the same universe as alien. Now Scott has claimed that it is NOT a prequel and would say no more. EDIT - and now Fassbender joins the queue claiming it is NOT a prequel to Alien but confirms that it is definitely connected to the world of alien.

    This very recent info all points to the idea that Promethues may not be a prequel but probably will contain the aliens and the jockeys - therefore it will take part in the same universe for sure. It MAY be set before Alien, but probably won't end with the jockey travelling off to LV-426 or anything like that, or PERHAPS it will be set some other time, maybe even after alien, or at the same time? who knows? and is it really important? as long as it's set in the same universe and involves the Giger Alien species in it then I'm a happy man.
    Yes thats what i think unless scott is teasing us a little bit and might turn out to be a prequel who knows.. but i want to here from the man him self from a video etc.. i believe its in the Alien universe because we all saw fassbender even saying that in the video i just dnt really trust all of this info on websites
  25. BonesawT101
    So far Fassbender and Giger have confirmed that firstly ther is "a definite connecting vein" to the alien universe and Giger has also confirmed that prometheus does take part in the same universe as the Alien series. Then the bleeding cool leak went further to claim the alien aliens will be in it, but we may not recognise them, at least,not at first before going on to claim that prometheus does indeed take part in the same universe as alien. Now Scott has claimed that it is NOT a prequel and would say no more. EDIT - and now Fassbender joins the queue claiming it is NOT a prequel to Alien but confirms that it is definitely connected to the world of alien and that it doesn't ignore Alien, that the fans will recognize things in it.

    This very recent info all points to the idea that Promethues may not be a prequel but probably will contain the aliens and the jockeys - therefore it will take part in the same universe for sure. It MAY be set before Alien, but probably won't end with the jockey travelling off to LV-426 or anything like that, or PERHAPS it will be set some other time, maybe even after alien, or at the same time? who knows? and is it really important? as long as it's set in the same universe and involves the Giger Alien species in it then I'm a happy man.
  26. dandan
    Three more cast member's  join Scott's 'Prometheus' http://goo.gl/fb/Ni5F9

    Ridley Scott talks Prometheus. Heavily guarding the script: http://bit.ly/hdqqQ8


    "filming starts in three weeks at Pinewood Studios"

    ^^^^^

    thats good to know! glad to here they are getting cracking on with it !

    DamonLindelof Damon Lindelof
    PROMETHEUS mission 4b: Somehow talk Mr. Elba into reenacting prison conversations with him as Stringer and me as Avon. http://bit.ly/hzkABn

    http://twitter.com/#!/DamonLindelof




    @alienpreqnews Michael Fassbender spills a few beans on Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien er,Prometheus’EXCLUSIVE: The Nerdverse ha http://bit.ly/fJ2Apz



    ^^^^^^^^^^

    "Prometheus isn’t an Alien prequel is just a classic bit of misdirection. As an Alien fan, I for one would plotz if a year from now Scott held a news conference saying, ‘I lied, it is an Alien prequel!’ That’s a marketing campaign money can’t buy. And I’m still not convinced this isn’t what’s going on here."
  27. Charlie 1-1
    I just hope that all this banter about it being / not being an alien film / remake is to throw us all off track. I magine going to the flicks and seeing a kick asre film u never expected.   
    ( LIke Alien when 1ST released.    0 WE live in hope!
  28. dandan
    Three more cast member's  join Scott's 'Prometheus' http://goo.gl/fb/Ni5F9

    Ridley Scott talks Prometheus. Heavily guarding the script: http://bit.ly/hdqqQ8


    "filming starts in three weeks at Pinewood Studios"

    ^^^^^

    thats good to know! glad to here they are getting cracking on with it !

    DamonLindelof Damon Lindelof
    PROMETHEUS mission 4b: Somehow talk Mr. Elba into reenacting prison conversations with him as Stringer and me as Avon. http://bit.ly/hzkABn

    http://twitter.com/#!/DamonLindelof




    @alienpreqnews Michael Fassbender spills a few beans on Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien er,Prometheus’EXCLUSIVE: The Nerdverse ha http://bit.ly/fJ2Apz
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